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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:20 pm 
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what unprofessional are you talking about? :lol:

we have been very professional in handling a mentally challenged person like you. :biglaugh:


I just said Mayol is a headbutt king now I'm tanga etc.. yeah, you're so prefessional...

Who's affected anyway.. LOL..

utot nyong blue..

mayol >>> KTFO >>> sicfly via headbutt :D


Effect ng kakasinghot mo ng utot mo yung pagiging tanga mo :lol: :lol: :lol:




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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:28 pm 
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I dont think it was intentional. On the slow-mo replay, Mayol was trying to land a punch but their heads came together. I dont see whe he is unprofessional or can be called head-butt king?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:32 pm 
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Paolo123 wrote:
I dont think it was intentional. On the slow-mo replay, Mayol was trying to land a punch but their heads came together. I dont see whe he is unprofessional or can be called head-butt king?


ahem.. nobody called the headbutt king unprofessional..


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:46 pm 
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It was unintentional. Let's just celebrate his win and watch for his next fight if there would be an incident of headbutt again. If it happens and he wins, then that would seal his crown as the headbutt king as you proclaimed him to be.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:59 pm 
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bilib ako kay mayol...

TS *****!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:09 pm 
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bilib ako kay mayol...

TS *****!!!

ako din, bilib din ako kay headbutt king :D


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:45 pm 
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I believe Mayol did not intended to headbutt Sosa. Just try to observe Mayol's style, he is prone to "headbutts". he lowers and moves his head forward most of the time when he throws his uppercuts or his punches.

Sosa just can't accept the fact that he lost to Mayol.

So, bring Calderon on Mayol's lists of his next opponents.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:49 pm 
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hard2kill wrote:
I am a big pinoy boxing fan but when it comes to dirty fighters... I am losing respect...

Kung di pa mang he-headbutt etong si Mayol di pa mananalo... Likas na ba talaga kay Mayol ang mang-headbutt?

LOL


actually, Sosa tried to win the fight the Calderon way but his acting was so lousy, the ringside Doctor didn't buy it .If you look at the video closely, Mayol's feet were all planted firm on the floor and swinging his punch for the homerun. It was Sosa who moved forward so close to Mayol therefore the clash of head was all his fault. the point deduction on Mayol was not fair with no prior warning. Sosa got beaten by the better man that night . He just gotta have to take it like a man. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:05 am 
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hard2kill wrote:
dakilangungaz wrote:
bilib ako kay mayol...

TS *****!!!

ako din, bilib din ako kay headbutt king :D


Mayol used his weight to slingshot his punch that's why his head moves in a forward motion. it's not illegal. it's a good technique to increased the explosiveness of the punch. Sosa didn't adequately protect himself so it's not Mayol's problem. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:58 am 
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hard2kill wrote:
ha ha ha, mga galit na sila.. ha ha ha, mga sar talo..

na-headbutt ba kaying kahat ni Mayol at bakit mukhang paiyak na kayo sa galit? .. LOL sige mag alboroto pa kayo.. sabihin nyo na ang gusto yong sabihin.. LOL

Mayol >> headbutt >> dumb pacland posters who are kissing his @ss.. :D


Ay wala lang sumagot sa post nya na ilang minuto nalungkot na..ikaw nga ang nagaalboroto jan...AY NAKAKAHIYA..PAM PAM TALAGA..


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:01 am 
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aljas wrote:
hard2kill wrote:
dakilangungaz wrote:
bilib ako kay mayol...

TS *****!!!

ako din, bilib din ako kay headbutt king :D


Mayol used his weight to slingshot his punch that's why his head moves in a forward motion. it's not illegal. it's a good technique to increased the explosiveness of the punch. Sosa didn't adequately protect himself so it's not Mayol's problem. :D


Sir, your comment is too unfathomable for the TS to comprehend..He only has a centimeter of brain to push to it for him to understand that.. but you are correct with your observation though.. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:47 am 
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mayol was scolded by his trainer and said to him that be intelligent in the ring and used your head. he took it literally and headbutt sosa. anyway, a win is still a win. congrats hard headed mayol



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:50 am 
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before calderon fought mayol he also head butted hugo cazares of mexico.i think when calderon knew that he couldnt win with his opponent.he does this thing.against mayol you could see it clearly calderon initiated it because he knows he will be favored on the scorecard.cazares knew about this same with mayol.regarding mayol headbutting sosa,you could see it clearly it wasnt intentional,both were moving forward.the referee gave sosa enough time to recuperate even asking sosa if he wants to continue.the referee was also biased in deducting one point against mayoi.it should be a warning first.sosa was just outgunned by a stronger fighter.even if they meet again mayol will knock this guy out and the fight will not be in mexico.the pacman will not allow this.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:42 am 
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The Whole Tooth and Nothing But ...

By Ed de la Vega, DDS

TEAM SOSA SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON TRAINING RATHER THAN SOUR-GRAPING

PhilBoxing.com
24 Nov 2009



Boxing losses bring different reactions from those who ended up on the short end. Some graciously accept defeat and live to train and fight another time.

Others become so disconsolate that they open their mouths without thinking through the processes that led to the defeat.

Sour-grapping, if you will.

Case in point. Team Edgar Sosa.

Reports from “fightnews.com” indicate that Sosa and his team are crying foul. What else could be expected when they lost a fight in front of their home crowd? It's one thing losing a fight but it’s another thing losing it in front of friends and family. The sting is far greater and it goes in deeper.

Jacques Deschamps, Sosa’s manager accused Mayol of intentionally head-butting Sosa to win the fight. He even cited the past two performances of Mayol against Ivan Calderon as evidence that Mayol is a dirty fighter.

Nothing could be so far from the truth!

I know Mayol better than Deschamps. Thus I say, Deschamps is just crying foul and looking for excuses as to why Sosa lost the fight. He simply ignored the fact that Sosa lost because they failed to prepare him correctly.

True, Sosa and Mayol clashed heads and Sosa was on the wrong end of the stick. I do not condone head butts, particularly those intentionally done. I feel the same about low blows and use of elbows as well.

But Deschamps should have a fair-minded look at the incident that led to the head clash before he starts making accusations.

Mayol threw a right body hook. In order to do that, he had to bend slightly lower to reach Sosa’s body. But Sosa, with all his experiences in fighting saw the blow coming so he brought his head down and his hands low in an effort to soften or perhaps block the body blow coming from Mayol. In so doing he exposed his face. (See photo)

It was at that particular moment when their heads clashed. Sosa, whose head was in a higher position got hit on the cheek bone while Mayol got hit on the left temple area.

If Mayol intended to head butt Sosa, he would have used his forehead. It would be far easier that way. The fact that Mayol got hit low on the temple area (side of the head) indicate that the clash of heads was accidental.

But be that as it may, the referee, Robert Ramirez of Puerto Rico exercised his options to deduct a point from Mayol. That is well and good as the rules discussed a day before the fight allowed him to do so.

He could have ignored it just as well or deducted points from each fighter. He had that option too. Just because he did deduct a point from Mayol does not necessarily mean that Mayol had bad intentions. The point was deducted for an accidental head butt. Not intentional.

The fact of the matter is Ramirez did the right thing by giving Sosa enough time to recover and asking the ring doctor to check on Sosa’s injury. He was following the rules as a good referee should.

The doctor indicated that Sosa was okay to continue so Ramirez allowed the fight to continue. That in itself is enough reason to conclude that the defeat was not because of the accidental clash of heads. If the doctor found it fit to stop the fight because of the head clash, he would have recommended to the referee that the fight be stopped.

Viewing the video of the fight clearly indicates that Sosa was okay to continue. In fact he threw some decent shots when the fight resumed.

However, when he got hit by Mayol’s hard left hook, he went down. Succeeding combinations after the fight resumed spelled his doom.

Did the clash of heads lead to the defeat of Sosa?

Unlike Team Sosa, I can not absolutely say that for sure!

Could the left hook that hit flushed on his face and resulted in a knock-down do the same?

No doubt about it!

But I am sure Team Sosa would not agree.

Sosa also suffered fractures in his face. From the pre-operative x-rays I saw, there were fractures on the floor of the orbit, the zygomatic process and the left maxilla area.

I can not for certain tell that the fractures where from the head clash. They could have been as a result of the heavy shots he absorbed from Mayol or even a combination of both.

At any rate, from our perspective, I think Sosa’s defeat has a lot more to do with his conditioning and weight management than the clash of heads.

But Team Sosa is in denial.

Why do we say that?

We were up close to Sosa during the weigh-in and we saw his lip dry and when he licked his lips to wet them, we saw his tongue white and dry. Sosa also appeared gaunt and drained.

Then, when we saw him an hour before the fight in his dressing room as we monitored the taping of his hands, he did not appear gaunt anymore.

But he looked like he was bloated. One team member kept on putting something in his mouth that appeared like crushed candy or something to keep stimulating his saliva.

We also had information that during the half an hour trip back on the bus from Chiapa del Gorzo (where the weight-in occurred) back to the hotel, Sosa consumed 5 bottles of Gatorade.

With all that information in mind, Jesse Arevalo instructed Mayol to attack in the first few rounds to exhaust Sosa and possibly KO him before round 5.

But, that did not happen.

Mayol stopped him within two.

And with that Mayol won the WBC Light Flyweight title!

Perhaps its time for Sosa to move up to 112 lbs.or even 115 lbs. so as not have any weight problems anymore. We think asking the guy to continually fight at 108 is asking too much from him.

But the decision to remain at 108 lbs is in Sosa and his manager’s hands.

However, if he stays at 108 lbs demand a re-match, Mayol should have no problem giving it to him.

But certainly not in Mexico. It is time for Sosa to come up to the US or even in Manila to challenge Mayol. After all what’s fair is fair.

In the meantime, if the re-match can be negotiated, it will do Team Sosa good if they stop sour-grapping and put the defeat on the back burner and concentrate on Sosa’s conditioning and weight management instead.

Then they could give Mayol a good run for his money!

But that still does not mean that he could win. Mayol is simply too good for Sosa.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:43 pm 
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The Whole Tooth and Nothing But ...

By Ed de la Vega, DDS

TEAM SOSA SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON TRAINING RATHER THAN SOUR-GRAPING

PhilBoxing.com
24 Nov 2009



Boxing losses bring different reactions from those who ended up on the short end. Some graciously accept defeat and live to train and fight another time.

Others become so disconsolate that they open their mouths without thinking through the processes that led to the defeat.

Sour-grapping, if you will.

Case in point. Team Edgar Sosa.

Reports from “fightnews.com” indicate that Sosa and his team are crying foul. What else could be expected when they lost a fight in front of their home crowd? It's one thing losing a fight but it’s another thing losing it in front of friends and family. The sting is far greater and it goes in deeper.

Jacques Deschamps, Sosa’s manager accused Mayol of intentionally head-butting Sosa to win the fight. He even cited the past two performances of Mayol against Ivan Calderon as evidence that Mayol is a dirty fighter.

Nothing could be so far from the truth!

I know Mayol better than Deschamps. Thus I say, Deschamps is just crying foul and looking for excuses as to why Sosa lost the fight. He simply ignored the fact that Sosa lost because they failed to prepare him correctly.

True, Sosa and Mayol clashed heads and Sosa was on the wrong end of the stick. I do not condone head butts, particularly those intentionally done. I feel the same about low blows and use of elbows as well.

But Deschamps should have a fair-minded look at the incident that led to the head clash before he starts making accusations.

Mayol threw a right body hook. In order to do that, he had to bend slightly lower to reach Sosa’s body. But Sosa, with all his experiences in fighting saw the blow coming so he brought his head down and his hands low in an effort to soften or perhaps block the body blow coming from Mayol. In so doing he exposed his face. (See photo)

It was at that particular moment when their heads clashed. Sosa, whose head was in a higher position got hit on the cheek bone while Mayol got hit on the left temple area.

If Mayol intended to head butt Sosa, he would have used his forehead. It would be far easier that way. The fact that Mayol got hit low on the temple area (side of the head) indicate that the clash of heads was accidental.

But be that as it may, the referee, Robert Ramirez of Puerto Rico exercised his options to deduct a point from Mayol. That is well and good as the rules discussed a day before the fight allowed him to do so.

He could have ignored it just as well or deducted points from each fighter. He had that option too. Just because he did deduct a point from Mayol does not necessarily mean that Mayol had bad intentions. The point was deducted for an accidental head butt. Not intentional.

The fact of the matter is Ramirez did the right thing by giving Sosa enough time to recover and asking the ring doctor to check on Sosa’s injury. He was following the rules as a good referee should.

The doctor indicated that Sosa was okay to continue so Ramirez allowed the fight to continue. That in itself is enough reason to conclude that the defeat was not because of the accidental clash of heads. If the doctor found it fit to stop the fight because of the head clash, he would have recommended to the referee that the fight be stopped.

Viewing the video of the fight clearly indicates that Sosa was okay to continue. In fact he threw some decent shots when the fight resumed.

However, when he got hit by Mayol’s hard left hook, he went down. Succeeding combinations after the fight resumed spelled his doom.

Did the clash of heads lead to the defeat of Sosa?

Unlike Team Sosa, I can not absolutely say that for sure!

Could the left hook that hit flushed on his face and resulted in a knock-down do the same?

No doubt about it!

But I am sure Team Sosa would not agree.

Sosa also suffered fractures in his face. From the pre-operative x-rays I saw, there were fractures on the floor of the orbit, the zygomatic process and the left maxilla area.

I can not for certain tell that the fractures where from the head clash. They could have been as a result of the heavy shots he absorbed from Mayol or even a combination of both.

At any rate, from our perspective, I think Sosa’s defeat has a lot more to do with his conditioning and weight management than the clash of heads.

But Team Sosa is in denial.

Why do we say that?

We were up close to Sosa during the weigh-in and we saw his lip dry and when he licked his lips to wet them, we saw his tongue white and dry. Sosa also appeared gaunt and drained.

Then, when we saw him an hour before the fight in his dressing room as we monitored the taping of his hands, he did not appear gaunt anymore.

But he looked like he was bloated. One team member kept on putting something in his mouth that appeared like crushed candy or something to keep stimulating his saliva.

We also had information that during the half an hour trip back on the bus from Chiapa del Gorzo (where the weight-in occurred) back to the hotel, Sosa consumed 5 bottles of Gatorade.

With all that information in mind, Jesse Arevalo instructed Mayol to attack in the first few rounds to exhaust Sosa and possibly KO him before round 5.

But, that did not happen.

Mayol stopped him within two.

And with that Mayol won the WBC Light Flyweight title!

Perhaps its time for Sosa to move up to 112 lbs.or even 115 lbs. so as not have any weight problems anymore. We think asking the guy to continually fight at 108 is asking too much from him.

But the decision to remain at 108 lbs is in Sosa and his manager’s hands.

However, if he stays at 108 lbs demand a re-match, Mayol should have no problem giving it to him.

But certainly not in Mexico. It is time for Sosa to come up to the US or even in Manila to challenge Mayol. After all what’s fair is fair.

In the meantime, if the re-match can be negotiated, it will do Team Sosa good if they stop sour-grapping and put the defeat on the back burner and concentrate on Sosa’s conditioning and weight management instead.

Then they could give Mayol a good run for his money!

But that still does not mean that he could win. Mayol is simply too good for Sosa.










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