bringpacmantobigd wrote:
Lildevalt wrote:
Ano raw? PEDS usage is suspicion?
So, u mean Mosley, Morales, Berto, etc, tested positive for banned substances due to suspicion? Guilty by suspicion? lol
Ok, Mr. Supplements expert, tell me the specific benefits of supplements to a fighter's performance and give me the names of supplements.
Supplements are facts, sabi mo. Prove it by example and list. Educate me, tol.

I think you are getting the wrong impression here Lildevalt, I don't think he's saying the supplements makes one a better fighter. No supplement can make you become a better athlete. Nutritional supplements as the name suggest is just that. It allows anyone, athletes and common folks to get the extra nutrition, vitamins and minerals that help in our overall health, that we may not get from our typical diet alone. For example, proteins can be supplemented from whey powdered drinks, instead of trying to digest x amount of chicken or beef. Vitamin C can be supplemented by a capsule of vit C concentrate instead of trying to eat x amount of citrus fruit.
So there is no such thing as list of supplement that shows specific benefits to a fighter's performance. But I'm sure there's scientific, medical proof of the benefits of supplement to a person's overall health.
If u read back our exchanges, there, u would see that andy put supplements and discipline on the same level of importance. I bet even u could tell me the concrete benefits of discipline more than u could tell me the benefits of supplements to a fighter's conditioning and performance. There were all time greats, throwback and modern, who were in great shape and fought 15 rounders. Andy said, throwback fighters were expected to be in tip top shape because they fought too often in a year. Well, i countered, Hagler, Hopkins and Mayweather fought just as frequent as Pacquiao but strict discipline, even without fights, made things easier for them to condition their body during training preparation. Cutting weight was no longer a problem.
All that said, which do u think is more fact than fiction? The direct benefits of self-discipline or supplements to a boxer? Would u consider them on the same level?
Please read this article....
http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j ... SyKjzaYZTQQuote:
The Most Potent and Powerful Supplement I give Manny Pacquiao
by Alex Ariza57 Comments
There is a “Manny Pack” that I developed Exclusively for Manny Pacquiao. It is not sold to the public.It contains everything I think the champ needs to perform at his best.I am currently getting this pack made for the public. The deal I am working on is to make it exclusive to my readers and the people that want something that actually works.I believe I will have this pack to the public within the next few weeks.That being said, my favorite supplement in the pack that I give to Manny Pacquiao has to be Glucosamine. (commonly sold in forms of Glucosamine Sulfate and Glucosamine Hydrochloride.)Now before you go run out an by this supplement please understand something, I have used a variety of forms of this product for years that have been produced by many different companies and I swore this supplement was bogus.I have waisted more money on this supplement than I can tell you. It never did what it claimed to do. The supplement claims it will help relieve joint pain.That was until I started using the company I use now. Do you want to hear the funny truth why I am such a believer? I have a 15 year old dog (name Pibe) He is my son. You know what I mean? He is my family. He has been with me forever-we are bros. I have had him since he was a baby and because of his age my life literally revolves around him now.Two years ago my dog could barely walk. He could not do anything. Could not even make it outside to take a piss. One day a friend of mine said to start giving this glucosamine to my dog and watch the difference. WOW.. I mean my dog jumps up on the couch now, chases kids down the street. He has a life again. I am still blown away to this day. He is a totally different dog.Not only did this supplement help to cure my dog to have a better life it also helped with my rehabilitation with Manny Pacquiao’s ailments. The ailments that were preventing him from being the fighter he is today.Proof is in the pudding and we will see the difference in Manny Pacquiao during this Marquez fight in November compared to the two previous bouts that Manny had against Juan Manuel Marquez.I am going to make a prediction for this fight coming out in November.My prediction is Manny Pacquiao will destroy Marquez. I mean he will destroy him.The reason is Manny Pacquiao is a totally different fighter today than he was the last time the two of them fought. Most people do not know the ailments Manny had when I met him.I was able to devise certain exercises and stretching routines, along with the implementation of FDA Approved supplementation, which includes Glucosamine to help get Manny Pacquiao where he is today.People do not think about this, but when the champ was having certain ailments with his shoulders and legs he could not practice or train like he does now. Now in the gym he is alway in tip top shape. His health is great and his training is ridiculous.When Manny Pacquiao trains this hard everyday without pain he is that much better and that much stronger in the ring come fight night. This is why he is dominating people the way he is.It is because he now is operating at 100%.When you add the proper diet, the proper workouts, the proper stretching routine and the proper supplementation to someone that was already as good as the Pacman you are going to get these results.I want to use this fight against Marquez as my stamp on the success I have had with Manny. I was not there the past two Marquez fights. I started with Pacquiao during Diaz.The best of Pacquiao is yet to come.Glucosamine has been a big factor of his success.Be careful and do not buy that crap out there that does not work. I am telling you that there is a difference between supplement companies and the quality of their product.I will get you guys the Manny Packs, because you guys have been wanting them for so long.If you ad them to your daily healthy meals, you do the proper workouts and stretching, you will have a much healthier and stronger life a head of you.I hope I am helping all of you with these blogs. I really appreciate the fans support. I read your comments and see the threads on Pacland.I am here for you guys.Thanks for your support.I am training Julio Cesar Chavez JR. in two weeks for his fight coming up in September. We will get you guys even better footage than last time, so you can see his training first hand. This kid has a lot of heart and I am proud of him. Thank you guys for supporting him too. He told me last night that he wants to be on the site again. He felt a lot of love from the fans and wants to put on a better show for you guys this next fight and also have you take a look at his training.
Thank you for all your support,Until next time
Alex
That article came out before the Marquez-Pacquiao 3rd fight.
Tol, what's your observation of Manny's physical condition in that fight, especially the later rounds?