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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:35 pm 
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heroe_del_silencio wrote:
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getting morales into the midsection i think is not agood idea. it may hurt EM a bit but Pacquiao will be wide open which is not very easy thing to recieve a beating coming from EM.



I agree with you, Miss. Dixie. That is probably why he decided not to go the body during their first match. Maybe Pacquiao was not expecting such a fearless warrior? Pacquiao was shocked when he saw Morales encouraging him to exchange punches in the first round.

Morales: "Come on!!!! Let's fight!!!" Hehe, gotta love that.

The shock is gone, so Morales needs to shock him again. What will he do to shock Pacquiao? I have no idea.

You`ll never know heroe, but ill tell you what kind of man a Filipino is when he is angry, Every inch of hell break loose. He is more dangarous when he provoked.


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To Heroe_del_Silenceo:
Originally posted by Heroe
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I agree with you, Miss. Dixie. That is probably why he decided not to go the body during their first match. Maybe Pacquiao was not expecting such a fearless warrior? Pacquiao was shocked when he saw Morales encouraging him to exchange punches in the first round.

Morales: "Come on!!!! Let's fight!!!" Hehe, gotta love that.

The shock is gone, so Morales needs to shock him again. What will he do to shock Pacquiao? I have no idea.
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Compadre Heroe,
"Morales shocked Pacquiao?" You gotta be kidding me,padrino!! Do you think Pacquiao got scared of your warrior? Absolutely,not.
Filipinos may be passive and meek ,but they rise to the challenge if cornered and boxed in.Believe me ,Pare.It's in our blood.
Well,you are so sure that Morales will prevail over our hero again.Back it up,Buddy.
I'm gonna offer you again for the umpteenth time.And you prefer to be mum everytime.
And i don't know if you answer or not.
I'll send you 2 cases of Corona for a win by Morales and you send me a case of San Miguel for a win by Pacquiao.Don't be shocked!! This is a friendly bet.This is your Partida on the impending battle of these Dos Peleadores.
i will send them to you by UPS ,if you win.I do have my Palabra De Honor.But i will not be shocked.It's just a camaraderie bet.


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you're correct there p're except for the nose!!! but that's understandable noses are always weak spots!!!


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i praise you men! (Ultimate Boxing Fan) nice comment, hope pacman can adjust for a better tactics.


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i agree with all of the above. manny has to attack the body to bring down morlaes.


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a really nice thread...sana lang di na ma-headbutt si manny...for sure it will be another war.


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approved! thumbs up! Great! OK! Walastik! Ikasa mo kid! Give me five! APeer! Naks! Good! YUP! Sang ayon ako dyan! Sama akong lima! SAGAD!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:39 pm 
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heroe_del_silencio wrote:
Ultimate Boxing Fan wrote:
TARGETTING MORALES' WEAK SPOTS

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Per my observation, the following are Morales' weak body spots:

1. Lower right of his abdomen. Obviously, Erik seemed hurt whenever
Manny hit him hard here in their first fight. Erik backs away and stoops
down to protect it. But when Manny misses the mark, Erik counters
with a hard right to the face of Manny who immediately backs away.
Manny's got to really make some adjustments on how to hit this
area effectively with a variety of moves. In their fight, Manny always
got hit first before he was able to hit this area.

2. Lower left of his abdomen. This is the area which is open most of the
time whenever he delivers those jabs. But Manny wasnt able to
land punches in here.

3. Middle of the stomach - same comment as no.2.

4. Below the chin. Roach is trying to perfect Manny's upper cut. Maybe
Roach thinks more than a couple of punches in this area will rock
Morales to force him to leave the body more open for Manny's
attack.

5. Middle of the face (nose) - Manny's dreaded straight left will most
probably left Morales' face bloodied with blood oozing down the nose.
Some observers say Morales' nose is not as strong as his chin.
Just what Manny did with Ledwaba.


So far, as of this time, most observers say that Manny's plan should be
to wear Morales down first by storming first the body and implement
the knockout plan in the later rounds.

How Manny will be able to do this is the team's secret.

Morales, i think, will maintain the distance throughout the fight, jabbing.
Pacquiao will have a hard time again reaching him trying to deliver hard
punches and most of the time missing the mark. This might tire Pacquiao
again. Morales will maintain that 12 inch distance from his foot to Manny's
foot. Manny will try to avoid getting a headbutt.

Manny, i think, will have to follow what Barrera did, attack immediately
in the first opening bell. This is the only way to wear down the durable
Morales in the later rounds but Manny's got to have a much better stamina
and defense this time.

Another known weakness of Morales is the 'Machismo' factor. He is known
to be easily dragged into a toe-to-toe fight if prompted. Manny can exploit
this area to his advantage. But Manny's got to have a good judgment of timing it and, of course, excellent defense again.

Im not an expert. Just a piece of a boxing fan.

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Have fun, guys!




Manny did with Barrera as he pleased...but this was probably because Pacquiao has longer reach. Morales is a whole different type of fighter. He is taller, stronger, and has longer reach. Pacquiao will probably never do to Morales what he did to Barrera. Why? Because of all of Morales' advantages and because Morales will be prepared for everything Pacquiao will bring to the table.

Morales has not been knocked down, much less knocked out, in his entire career. The truth is he probably will never be knocked out. His chin is the best in the business right now. Maybe in a few years he will get knocked out, but now....highly unlikely.

I agree that he was hurt by a body punch, and you better believe he will be ready for that in the rematch. This time Pacquiao will be allowed to wear his beloved Reyes gloves. Morales will probably wear the same gloves as Pacquiao. [b]Someone's azz is going to touch the canvass
this time, baby! It will be Pacquiao lol, jk, who knows. Peace


And it could also be the face of ERIC kissing the canvass.. saying mwahmwahtsuptsup!!..right?..peace! :lol:


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 Post subject: time for to shock Eric..
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:01 pm 
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heroe_del_silencio wrote:
dixie wrote:
getting morales into the midsection i think is not agood idea. it may hurt EM a bit but Pacquiao will be wide open which is not very easy thing to recieve a beating coming from EM.



I agree with you, Miss. Dixie. That is probably why he decided not to go the body during their first match. Maybe Pacquiao was not expecting such a fearless warrior? Pacquiao was shocked when he saw Morales encouraging him to exchange punches in the first round.

Morales: "Come on!!!! Let's fight!!!" Hehe, gotta love that.

The shock is gone, so Morales needs to shock him again. What will he do to shock Pacquiao? I have no idea.


I think the idea will be .... ahmm!!

Eric will kiss Manny's a$$!!!.. :lol: :biglaugh:
Eric might hug Manny and never let go..:biglaugh: :peace:


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I do not think that Erik Morales has a physical weakness. He has a good chin and a good body and great stamina. His style is multi dimensional and has decent power and he fights with brains and character, a great ring general. If he has some physical weaknesses, it should have shown already in his career.

However, the fight with Raheem tells the strategy to beat Erik all the time. The Hit-and-Run tactic. Fight with Erik aggressively and he plays with you and tames you, go for the Hit-and-Run, Erik become helpless and frustrated.


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 Post subject: Erik Is No Superman!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:35 pm 
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Shark_Attack wrote:
I do not think that Erik Morales has a physical weakness. He has a good chin and a good body and great stamina. His style is multi dimensional and has decent power and he fights with brains and character, a great ring general. If he has some physical weaknesses, it should have shown already in his career.

However, the fight with Raheem tells the strategy to beat Erik all the time. The Hit-and-Run tactic. Fight with Erik aggressively and he plays with you and tames you, go for the Hit-and-Run, Erik become helpless and frustrated.


Erik is no superman!

Of course, hes got some too.

He's just good at defending it and having a poker face.

We'll just have to find out.

And Manny's got a lot, too. He's just have to defend it.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:03 pm 
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Ultimate Boxing Fan wrote:
TARGETTING MORALES' WEAK SPOTS

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Per my observation, the following are Morales' weak body spots:

1. Lower right of his abdomen. Obviously, Erik seemed hurt whenever
Manny hit him hard here in their first fight. Erik backs away and stoops
down to protect it. But when Manny misses the mark, Erik counters
with a hard right to the face of Manny who immediately backs away.
Manny's got to really make some adjustments on how to hit this
area effectively with a variety of moves. In their fight, Manny always
got hit first before he was able to hit this area.

2. Lower left of his abdomen. This is the area which is open most of the
time whenever he delivers those jabs. But Manny wasnt able to
land punches in here.

3. Middle of the stomach - same comment as no.2.

4. Below the chin. Roach is trying to perfect Manny's upper cut. Maybe
Roach thinks more than a couple of punches in this area will rock
Morales to force him to leave the body more open for Manny's
attack.

5. Middle of the face (nose) - Manny's dreaded straight left will most
probably left Morales' face bloodied with blood oozing down the nose.
Some observers say Morales' nose is not as strong as his chin.
Just what Manny did with Ledwaba.


So far, as of this time, most observers say that Manny's plan should be
to wear Morales down first by storming first the body and implement
the knockout plan in the later rounds.

How Manny will be able to do this is the team's secret.

Morales, i think, will maintain the distance throughout the fight, jabbing.
Pacquiao will have a hard time again reaching him trying to deliver hard
punches and most of the time missing the mark. This might tire Pacquiao
again. Morales will maintain that 12 inch distance from his foot to Manny's
foot. Manny will try to avoid getting a headbutt.

Manny, i think, will have to follow what Barrera did, attack immediately
in the first opening bell. This is the only way to wear down the durable
Morales in the later rounds but Manny's got to have a much better stamina
and defense this time.

Another known weakness of Morales is the 'Machismo' factor. He is known
to be easily dragged into a toe-to-toe fight if prompted. Manny can exploit
this area to his advantage. But Manny's got to have a good judgment of timing it and, of course, excellent defense again.

Im not an expert. Just a piece of a boxing fan.

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Have fun, guys!


excellent insights... if i may add, EM himself said the key why he won the first fight is because he didnt let MP go forward because manny is at his best when he fights going forward and is very bad figthing backwards...em made manny back up all night during the first fight.... manny should come with a plan b come the rematch.....

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 Post subject: Re: Erik Is No Superman!
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Ultimate Boxing Fan wrote:
Shark_Attack wrote:
I do not think that Erik Morales has a physical weakness. He has a good chin and a good body and great stamina. His style is multi dimensional and has decent power and he fights with brains and character, a great ring general. If he has some physical weaknesses, it should have shown already in his career.

However, the fight with Raheem tells the strategy to beat Erik all the time. The Hit-and-Run tactic. Fight with Erik aggressively and he plays with you and tames you, go for the Hit-and-Run, Erik become helpless and frustrated.


Erik is no superman!

Of course, hes got some too.

He's just good at defending it and having a poker face.

We'll just have to find out.

And Manny's got a lot, too. He's just have to defend it.




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i agree.... you think erik is some cyborg?
you may need to rephrase that bro...
even the greatest champs had physical weaknesses....
even MP, with those washboard abs and muscle.... he sure has weaknesses of his own....

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EM can be defeated, I hope MP and Roach have figured that one out already


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Good idea but..........

It's easier said than done.
If it were easy to hit El Terrible's weak spots
he wouldnt be were he is today.


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