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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:22 am 
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Even risking the danger of being called a crab, let me post what is on my my mind. (And I just have this habit of calling a spade a spade.

this is my original post in response to the article of dennis guillermo in the examiner entitiled respect for brian viloria. http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1094 ... ?#comments

dennis, let me take a contrary position: how can you give respect to a worker who does not do his job properly? i am a cop here in the philippines and i am expected to render 8 hours of duty. would you still respect me if i work very hard for 7 hours and sleep in the remaining 1 hour? i will just tell you that "i ran out of gas" so i need to sleep.

viloria just did that. he worked for 8 rounds and slept in the remaining rounds. in the process, he foolishly endangered himself just like a cop sleeping on the job: he could have gotten killed. this is a question of work ethics: just like us cops, there is a saying: "sweat more in training so that you bleed less in battle." remember that brian is not a pure filipino. his heritage maybe but his upbringing is not. if you follow his facebook accout, his life is nothing like most of our filipino boxers. brian needs to dedicate more time to his craft and review his work ethics. he needs to prepare to work for 12 rounds.

i ran out of spece in the examiner's comments section and i want to add this: we all know that boxing is a cruel sport. as such, we expect that the practitioners appropriately prepare to do their job properly--just like in any other job. and just like in any other job, the excuse "i ran out of gas so i had to get off early" just does not make a valid excuse. if a pilot does that, the plane crashes. if a ship captain does that, there will be disaster. and brian did exactly just that. imagine what the boxing critics would have said if he was killed in that fateful 12th round where he was practically a defenseless punching bag unable to even lift his arms to defend himself?

he foolishly endangered not only himself but the whole sport as well by taking his job lightly and not preparing well.

before i end, let me just add: i am a marathoner so i exactly know what it takes to prepare for a physically demanding sport. and unlike brian, i would rather not run a marathon if i feel not completely ready rather than die while trying and give the sport a bad incident. no single player is above the sport.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:26 am 
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well said....pure logic.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:39 pm 
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well then at least respect his efforts.it's not as if he wanted to sleep on purpose.it's rare for any boxer's to have pacquiao or even tamara's stamina.you have to know all angles before you rant your heart's frustration.it's not common for viloria to train for 3 months so he could have overtrained.he did his best, can't you see that?he gave his all to finish off his opponent. it's just tamara was durable more than anyone expected.the better man won that night.had viloria quit due to exhausted like banal did puro mura na siguro inabot nya sa iyo.if you are so proud of your service yet demand so much from others, don't use it as a gauge of how much others should do too.that's because not all people are alike.i'm not proud of what you do,you serve 8 hours of duty because that's what your job tells you to do, by your own words "expected".wala yan sa mga sa mga barangay tanod namin,they are only required 8 hours too but they are on duty 10 hours everyday no sleep vice chika etc. so before ka magyabang sa service mo, do it without bringing down others.as service to the people like for your case or for our boxer's,the honor of our country is not the number of hours of service rendered that counts but the effort and sacrifices they made.for putting yourself on a pedestal and bringing down others, you were not close to being a crab.you were already a crab. you just brought upon yourself shame due to the self-promotion you just did. you want us to be proud of you just because you are a policeman who does his duty 8 hours a day? You want honor and glory for your service, don't announce it to the world. Let your record speak for you. Of all the people who understands sacrifice, you should be one of those who understands more than us the sacrifices these boxers make as their profession also entails to risk there lives on the ring just like yours does everyday.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:52 pm 
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nicktorre3 wrote:
Even risking the danger of being called a crab, let me post what is on my my mind. (And I just have this habit of calling a spade a spade.

this is my original post in response to the article of dennis guillermo in the examiner entitiled respect for brian viloria. http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1094 ... ?#comments

dennis, let me take a contrary position: how can you give respect to a worker who does not do his job properly? i am a cop here in the philippines and i am expected to render 8 hours of duty. would you still respect me if i work very hard for 7 hours and sleep in the remaining 1 hour? i will just tell you that "i ran out of gas" so i need to sleep.

viloria just did that. he worked for 8 rounds and slept in the remaining rounds. in the process, he foolishly endangered himself just like a cop sleeping on the job: he could have gotten killed. this is a question of work ethics: just like us cops, there is a saying: "sweat more in training so that you bleed less in battle." remember that brian is not a pure filipino. his heritage maybe but his upbringing is not. if you follow his facebook accout, his life is nothing like most of our filipino boxers. brian needs to dedicate more time to his craft and review his work ethics. he needs to prepare to work for 12 rounds.

i ran out of spece in the examiner's comments section and i want to add this: we all know that boxing is a cruel sport. as such, we expect that the practitioners appropriately prepare to do their job properly--just like in any other job. and just like in any other job, the excuse "i ran out of gas so i had to get off early" just does not make a valid excuse. if a pilot does that, the plane crashes. if a ship captain does that, there will be disaster. and brian did exactly just that. imagine what the boxing critics would have said if he was killed in that fateful 12th round where he was practically a defenseless punching bag unable to even lift his arms to defend himself?

he foolishly endangered not only himself but the whole sport as well by taking his job lightly and not preparing well.

before i end, let me just add: i am a marathoner so i exactly know what it takes to prepare for a physically demanding sport. and unlike brian, i would rather not run a marathon if i feel not completely ready rather than die while trying and give the sport a bad incident. no single player is above the sport.


you posted past 9AM so your duty has already started!
does your 8 hour duty include posting at a forum?mag internet during duty?
tama na yang solitaire at internet!
self-promotion ka pa!
anung kinalaman ng boxing sa police duty?
tapos di halatang may facebook ka rin kasi you can't follow up anybody else's facebook account without you having one yourself. SO ANO KINALAMAN NG FACEBOOK SA PAGPUPULIS OR SA TRABAHO MO?
MAG TRABAHO KA! ANG DAMING SNATCHER RAPIST ETC DIYAN SA LABAS TAPOS NANDITO KA NAG IINTERNET! GAWIN MO YANG TRABAHO MO! TSE! PWE!
IF EVER MAGPALUSOT KA NA REST DAY MO NGAYON, WALANG REST DAY REST DAY. YOU DEMAND SO MUCH FROM OTHERS, YOU MUST FIRST DEMAND MUCH FROM YOURSELF. DO SERVICE ON YOUR REST DAY!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:24 pm 
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radeon wrote:
nicktorre3 wrote:
Even risking the danger of being called a crab, let me post what is on my my mind. (And I just have this habit of calling a spade a spade.

this is my original post in response to the article of dennis guillermo in the examiner entitiled respect for brian viloria. http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1094 ... ?#comments

dennis, let me take a contrary position: how can you give respect to a worker who does not do his job properly? i am a cop here in the philippines and i am expected to render 8 hours of duty. would you still respect me if i work very hard for 7 hours and sleep in the remaining 1 hour? i will just tell you that "i ran out of gas" so i need to sleep.

viloria just did that. he worked for 8 rounds and slept in the remaining rounds. in the process, he foolishly endangered himself just like a cop sleeping on the job: he could have gotten killed. this is a question of work ethics: just like us cops, there is a saying: "sweat more in training so that you bleed less in battle." remember that brian is not a pure filipino. his heritage maybe but his upbringing is not. if you follow his facebook accout, his life is nothing like most of our filipino boxers. brian needs to dedicate more time to his craft and review his work ethics. he needs to prepare to work for 12 rounds.

i ran out of spece in the examiner's comments section and i want to add this: we all know that boxing is a cruel sport. as such, we expect that the practitioners appropriately prepare to do their job properly--just like in any other job. and just like in any other job, the excuse "i ran out of gas so i had to get off early" just does not make a valid excuse. if a pilot does that, the plane crashes. if a ship captain does that, there will be disaster. and brian did exactly just that. imagine what the boxing critics would have said if he was killed in that fateful 12th round where he was practically a defenseless punching bag unable to even lift his arms to defend himself?

he foolishly endangered not only himself but the whole sport as well by taking his job lightly and not preparing well.

before i end, let me just add: i am a marathoner so i exactly know what it takes to prepare for a physically demanding sport. and unlike brian, i would rather not run a marathon if i feel not completely ready rather than die while trying and give the sport a bad incident. no single player is above the sport.


you posted past 9AM so your duty has already started!
does your 8 hour duty include posting at a forum?mag internet during duty?
tama na yang solitaire at internet!
self-promotion ka pa!
anung kinalaman ng boxing sa police duty?
tapos di halatang may facebook ka rin kasi you can't follow up anybody else's facebook account without you having one yourself. SO ANO KINALAMAN NG FACEBOOK SA PAGPUPULIS OR SA TRABAHO MO?
MAG TRABAHO KA! ANG DAMING SNATCHER RAPIST ETC DIYAN SA LABAS TAPOS NANDITO KA NAG IINTERNET! GAWIN MO YANG TRABAHO MO! TSE! PWE!
IF EVER MAGPALUSOT KA NA REST DAY MO NGAYON, WALANG REST DAY REST DAY. YOU DEMAND SO MUCH FROM OTHERS, YOU MUST FIRST DEMAND MUCH FROM YOURSELF. DO SERVICE ON YOUR REST DAY!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
PAHIYA.PWND.


ulol. you don't even know me and yet you make conclusions as if you know everything. that is my opinion and it is nothing personal. now, if you want to get personal, how about posting your real name and address? mine is police chief inspector nicolas d torre, chief, training section, quezon city police district, camp gen tomas karingal, sikatuna village, diliman, quezon city.

pero kung ang tapang mo is just until the keyboard, never mind. i see lots of as$holes like you before. i have high tolerance for you.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:31 pm 
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nicktorre3 wrote:

ulol. you don't even know me and yet you make conclusions as if you know everything. that is my opinion and it is nothing personal. now, if you want to get personal, how about posting your real name and address? mine is police chief inspector nicolas d torre, chief, training section, quezon city police district, camp gen tomas karingal, sikatuna village, diliman, quezon city.

pero kung ang tapang mo is just until the keyboard, never mind. i see lots of as$holes like you before. i have high tolerance for you.


maximum tolerance, chief, maximum tolerance.
(mahirap daw yun sabi nung kumpare kong SPO.)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:39 pm 
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genetophile wrote:
nicktorre3 wrote:

ulol. you don't even know me and yet you make conclusions as if you know everything. that is my opinion and it is nothing personal. now, if you want to get personal, how about posting your real name and address? mine is police chief inspector nicolas d torre, chief, training section, quezon city police district, camp gen tomas karingal, sikatuna village, diliman, quezon city.

pero kung ang tapang mo is just until the keyboard, never mind. i see lots of as$holes like you before. i have high tolerance for you.


maximum tolerance, chief, maximum tolerance.
(mahirap daw yun sabi nung kumpare kong SPO.)
:toast:


hehe, there are lots of people looking for fights in the boards lately. haaay...sorry for the outburst bro but i really stand by my invitation if anybody wants to get personal. hehe


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:50 pm 
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before fighting solis, brian had 5 successive fights which may have helped him maintain his weight.......also solis was the favorite......so an added motivation for brian to push himself in training.


then he had bigger gaps in number of fights......because he was the champion........and he fought fighters, iribe & tamara, who aren't popular yet.....added motivation to slack off. it's possible brian had a problem getting the weight. too much self-confidence is..........


brian needs to find another job after that huge miscalculation on his part. that was a terrible beat-up because he was so tired that he wasn't able to protect himself. the referee saved him from a brain surgery if not from certain death.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:54 pm 
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before fighting solis, brian had 5 successive fights which may have helped him maintain his weight.......also solis was the favorite......so an added motivation for brian to push himself in training.


then he had bigger gaps in number of fights......because he was the champion........and he fought fighters, iribe & tamara, who aren't popular yet.....added motivation to slack off. it's possible brian had a problem getting the weight. too much self-confidence is..........


brian needs to find another job after that huge miscalculation on his part. that was a terrible beat-up because he was so tired that he wasn't able to protect himself. the referee saved him from a brain surgery if not from certain death.


i still believe that viloria has what it takes to be a champion again. but he has to seriously reassess his work ethics. in my work, it is called professionalism.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:55 pm 
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nicktorre3 wrote:
genetophile wrote:
maximum tolerance, chief, maximum tolerance.
(mahirap daw yun sabi nung kumpare kong SPO.)
:toast:


hehe, there are lots of people looking for fights in the boards lately. haaay...sorry for the outburst bro but i really stand by my invitation if anybody wants to get personal. hehe


chief, nakakatakot ka palang kalaban. I searched your name in Google, dami nyo na palang niyaring mga loko.
:gun:

About your post, I agree that Viloria may have inadequate preparation, but I disagree with the respect point - I want to give him another shot.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:02 pm 
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nicktorre3 wrote:
delpilar wrote:
before fighting solis, brian had 5 successive fights which may have helped him maintain his weight.......also solis was the favorite......so an added motivation for brian to push himself in training.


then he had bigger gaps in number of fights......because he was the champion........and he fought fighters, iribe & tamara, who aren't popular yet.....added motivation to slack off. it's possible brian had a problem getting the weight. too much self-confidence is..........


brian needs to find another job after that huge miscalculation on his part. that was a terrible beat-up because he was so tired that he wasn't able to protect himself. the referee saved him from a brain surgery if not from certain death.


i still believe that viloria has what it takes to be a champion again. but he has to seriously reassess his work ethics. in my work, it is called professionalism.

maybe, brian can still be a champion. but he softened up his skull using tamara as the hammer. the next fight......the opponent could be lucky and just totally destroy him.

brian has become champion twice in the same division...........maybe it's time to let it go.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:05 pm 
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genetophile wrote:
nicktorre3 wrote:
genetophile wrote:
maximum tolerance, chief, maximum tolerance.
(mahirap daw yun sabi nung kumpare kong SPO.)
:toast:


hehe, there are lots of people looking for fights in the boards lately. haaay...sorry for the outburst bro but i really stand by my invitation if anybody wants to get personal. hehe


chief, nakakatakot ka palang kalaban. I searched your name in Google, dami nyo na palang niyaring mga loko.
:gun:

About your post, I agree that Viloria may have inadequate preparation, but I disagree with the respect point - I want to give him another shot.


hehe, press release mga yun bro. yes, i myself do believe that viloria deserves another shot. he just have to respect the sport and prepare accordingly and not use the ring as his suicide venue.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:51 pm 
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nicktorre3 wrote:
ulol. you don't even know me and yet you make conclusions as if you know everything. that is my opinion and it is nothing personal. now, if you want to get personal, how about posting your real name and address? mine is police chief inspector nicolas d torre, chief, training section, quezon city police district, camp gen tomas karingal, sikatuna village, diliman, quezon city.

pero kung ang tapang mo is just until the keyboard, never mind. i see lots of as$holes like you before. i have high tolerance for you.


Chief, na-trace ko na yung kaaway mong si Radeon!!!

Real name niya ay JASON IVLER kaya pala kups :lol:

Siguro binigyan ng internet access sa QMMC. Kung pupuntahan mo, sama ako. Makikisipa lang bossing :biglaugh:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:56 pm 
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PacStorm wrote:
nicktorre3 wrote:
ulol. you don't even know me and yet you make conclusions as if you know everything. that is my opinion and it is nothing personal. now, if you want to get personal, how about posting your real name and address? mine is police chief inspector nicolas d torre, chief, training section, quezon city police district, camp gen tomas karingal, sikatuna village, diliman, quezon city.

pero kung ang tapang mo is just until the keyboard, never mind. i see lots of as$holes like you before. i have high tolerance for you.


Chief, na-trace ko na yung kaaway mong si Radeon!!!

Real name niya ay JASON IVLER kaya pala kups :lol:

Siguro binigyan ng internet access sa QMMC. Kung pupuntahan mo, sama ako. Makikisipa lang bossing :biglaugh:


hehe. walastik. baka maraid uli tayo ng nbi a...


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Running a marathon is not the same as fighting in the ring.
I'll leave my comments at that.

But continue to do your duty as a cop, and continue to keep the streets safe bro. Cheers.

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