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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Doug Fischer of Ring Magazine online:
"An Arum-promoted fighter (Morel) got what I thought was a blatant gift against a Golden Boy Promotions fighter (Penalosa) "
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1637/dougies ... y_mailbag/

Michael Rosenthal of Ring Magazine online:
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1636/weekend ... e_montiel/


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:53 am 
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Ref says Gerry was robbed
By Joaquin Henson (The Philippine Star) Updated February 16, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Veteran international referee Bruce McTavish said yesterday he scored it 115-113 for Gerry Peñalosa in his interim WBO bantamweight title fight against Eric Morel and couldn’t understand how the San Carlos City southpaw lost a split 12-round decision at the Las Vegas Hilton last weekend.

McTavish, who has worked in over 100 world title bouts, said Morel got off to a strong start but Peñalosa clearly controlled the action in the last six rounds. He added that referee Russell Mora should’ve penalized Morel at least a point for repeated holding.

“Morel was warned three or four times for holding,” said McTavish. “If you’re the referee, you deduct a point after the third warning or else why issue a warning in the first place? I thought he did a good job except for the holding.”

McTavish noted that under WBO rules, it isn’t mandatory to deduct a point from a fighter who inflicts a cut on his opponent with an accidental headbutt. However, it is mandatory under WBC rules outside of the US.

“In a WBC-sanctioned bout, a fighter who cuts up an opponent with an accidental headbutt is penalized a point even if he didn’t initiate the contact,” said McTavish. “That’s because of the handicap of a cut fighter. However, the rule doesn’t apply in the US even if it’s a WBC fight. Japan opposed the WBC rule at first but eventually accepted it.”

Morel inflicted severe cuts over both Peñalosa’s eyes with headbutts, causing the Filipino visual difficulty. Twice, Mora called on the ringside physician to check on Peñalosa’s wounds. On one occasion, Peñalosa told the doctor he couldn’t see clearly but wanted to continue fighting.

Although Mora wasn’t obliged to penalize Morel for the headbutts, he should’ve at least docked a point for repeated holding, said McTavish. Morel often locked Peñalosa’s arm when they came close and even held his head down with an arm to throw a punch with his free hand.

The judges’ scoring showed a stark disparity. Duane Ford, 72, saw it 116-112 for Morel, a margin that raised a lot of eyebrows. Paul Smith, 65, had it 115-113, also for the Puerto Rican. Richard Houck dissented, scoring it 115-113 for Peñalosa, the same tally as McTavish.

If Mora penalized Morel two points for holding and other foul tactics, the fight would’ve been a split draw.

Mora has worked in only 10 world title bouts, including four in the women’s category. He was the referee when Juan Alberto Rosas pounded out a 12-round decision over Filipino Federico Catubay in Las Vegas last November. Mora’s inexperience in handling a bout between two veterans – Peñalosa is 37 and Morel, 34 – was evident last weekend.

McTavish said the loss shouldn’t be a reason for Peñalosa to retire despite his age.

Former WBC secretary-general Rudy Salud, who was once Peñalosa’s manager, left the decision to retire up to the fighter.

“My heart tells me he should stop before he gets seriously hurt,” said Salud. “But if you compare Gerry with Filipino contenders like Ciso Morales, he’s way ahead so why should he stop? He might be one small step slower but he’s still good enough to win big fights. When to quit is his decision.”

As for Peñalosa’s fight against Morel, Salud said he agreed with the decision although the four-point margin in Ford’s card was ludicrous.

“I thought Gerry lost a close fight,” said Salud. “Morel had the early lead and Gerry tried to catch up but it wasn’t enough. Gerry got in some good body shots and at one stage, Morel looked like he was going down. Gerry’s deficiency is his size. He’s short in height, reach and limbs. It’s like he has to take a shot before being able to give one back. His physical make-up is a disadvantage. He’s often shorter than his opponents and his reach is less. That’s how it was against Daniel Ponce de Leon, Juan Manuel Lopez and even In Joo Cho.”

Salud revealed that when Peñalosa was under his care, the fighter was given a $20,000 step aside fee for another contender to fight for the WBC superflyweight title and called out Morel as an interim opponent. That was about 10 years ago and Morel refused.

Peñalosa, whose cuts were stitched up in a hospital after the fight, was consoled by Manny Pacquiao’s remarks that he was robbed of a victory. Pacquiao said in his opinion, Peñalosa took at least seven rounds. But the word from Las Vegas was Peñalosa is close to making an announcement of his retirement.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:50 pm 
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Dan Rafael of espn.com :

"Penalosa, the wily old pro and former junior bantamweight and bantamweight titlist from the Philippines, vacated his bantamweight belt last year for a shot at then-junior featherweight Juan Manuel Lopez. Lopez, however, was just too big, too strong and too young. He ravaged Penalosa for 10 rounds until trainer Freddie Roach mercifully stopped the fight. It was the first time Penalosa, 37, had been stopped in his professional career. Returning 10 months later, Penalosa suffered his second consecutive defeat, but this was a much different story. He didn't deserve to lose. He was the victim of a surprisingly poor decision in a boring fight. Judge **** Houck had the scorecard for Penalosa and appeared dead-on. Paul Smith's 115-113 scorecard for Morel was surprising, but Duane Ford's 116-112 card for Morel was the shocker.

Although Morel, 34, a former flyweight titlist from Puerto Rico, outboxed the slower Penalosa in the early rounds, Penalosa came on very strong in the second half of the fight -- even though he was fighting with bad cuts, one over his left eye and one on his forehead. Both were caused by accidental head-butts in the sixth round, and referee Russell Mora twice stopped the action so the ringside doctor could examine the wounds. But Penalosa soldiered on. He not only finished the fight, but he pressed the action and landed the harder shots over the final several rounds. Still, two of the judges didn't give him the credit he deserved, and Morel walked away with an interim 118-pound belt..."

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:13 pm 
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My last one for the day:

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-lea ... -blizzards

"I think Gerry Penalosa, alongside Glen Johnson, are the two hard-luck fighters of this past generation. I, like the overwhelming majority of you out there, thought that the crafty old Filipino southpaw did more than enough to outpoint the ever-reluctant Eric Morel in their bantamweight tilt. Penalosa, after a slow start, began to walk down Morel and hit him consistently with body shots. And take away the two clashes of heads, and Morel never really landed anything of significance.

Yet, inconceivably, judges Duane Ford (115-113) and Paul Smith (116-112) tabbed Morel the winner. The look on Penalosa’s face as he walked back into his dressing room said it all. A man who had always given an honest effort in this sport seemingly can’t get an honest call in Las Vegas. This is the second time I think he’s gotten the shaft in “Sin City,” as he was jobbed against Daniel Ponce De Leon a few years ago.

Just look at Penalosa’s record; it’s littered with close, controversial losses on foreign soil. I’m not sure that this fine technician will ever get the credit he deserves but he was certainly a pioneer for fighters out of the Philippines."


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Gerry Penalosa is the greatest technical boxer the Philippines has ever produced. Too bad that he was born 10 years too early. His "lutong macau" losses early in his career, in Japan/etc would never have happened if he was fighting in the US when he was in his prime. Don't forget too that he retired for about 2 years due to frustrations of losing on foreign soil, fights that he should have won. The reason he came back (already 30+ years old) was so he can fight in the US, after Manny broke the barrier down.

The US fight fans never saw the prime Gerry. Too bad.

Here's to you Gerry. You made us proud. :D :)

And yes, it is time to retire. You'll make a great trainer for future Pinoy fighters. They can learn the sweet science properly.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:42 am 
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flipgolfer wrote:
Gerry Penalosa is the greatest technical boxer the Philippines has ever produced. Too bad that he was born 10 years too early. His "lutong macau" losses early in his career, in Japan/etc would never have happened if he was fighting in the US when he was in his prime. Don't forget too that he retired for about 2 years due to frustrations of losing on foreign soil, fights that he should have won. The reason he came back (already 30+ years old) was so he can fight in the US, after Manny broke the barrier down.

The US fight fans never saw the prime Gerry. Too bad.

Here's to you Gerry. You made us proud. :D :)

And yes, it is time to retire. You'll make a great trainer for future Pinoy fighters. They can learn the sweet science properly.


hear hear 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:03 am 
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THOSE HEADBUTTS MADE GERRY LOOKED EVEN UGLIER,,,,,AND BY LOOKING MOREL HE WAS UNBLEMISHED, YES GERRY LANDED SOME GOOD SHOTS BUT DID NOT DO ANY DAMAGED TO MOREL. SO IN SOME SENSE GERRY DID NOT HAVE THE POWER AND AGAIN HE WAS LACKING OF FOLLOW UP IN HIS PUNCHES HE WAS LIKE CONCEPCION WHO WAS LACKING OF FOLLOW UP.


GERRY NEEDS TO RETIRE NOTHING LEFT ON HIM.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:21 am 
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Diego2009 wrote:
THOSE HEADBUTTS MADE GERRY LOOKED EVEN UGLIER,,,,,AND BY LOOKING MOREL HE WAS UNBLEMISHED, YES GERRY LANDED SOME GOOD SHOTS BUT DID NOT DO ANY DAMAGED TO MOREL. SO IN SOME SENSE GERRY DID NOT HAVE THE POWER AND AGAIN HE WAS LACKING OF FOLLOW UP IN HIS PUNCHES HE WAS LIKE CONCEPCION WHO WAS LACKING OF FOLLOW UP.

GERRY NEEDS TO RETIRE NOTHING LEFT ON HIM.


Easy on the font size and caps lock. :biglaugh:

As for your statement that Gerry didn't do any damage, you're off the mark. Morel himself said he got hurt by some of Penalosa's shots. And Gerry had excellent combinations that night, especially in the second half of the fight. Nothing like how Bernabe fought.

But back to Gerry. Hard to fight a guy (Morel) who keeps on backing up and dancing away. Almost like he didn't want to fight.

You're probably right though. Gerry's at the end of his career and needs to retire soon. But nothing left? He hurt and beat, at least in a lot of other people's eyes (including a bunch of notable boxing scribes), a younger and bigger opponent. Pretty fly for a 37-year old guy...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:06 am 
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coolka wrote:
No matter how many times I watched the stupid bout between Penalosa vs Morel, Penalosa WON. From round 7 to 12 it was Penalosa's rounds all the way. Morel knows he didnt win, thats how a fight goes when stupid judges were around.



Agreed dude. I had Morel ahead just based on volumes of punches through the 6th round, but Gerry clearly won the last 6 rounds.
I don't know what else the guy could have done except to KO Morel.


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