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smart things of samsungbis iot.. it can work at minimum in 2G but it may require 5G specially when utilizing camera as part of it.

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d_artagnan29 wrote:
smart things of samsungbis iot.. it can work at minimum in 2G but it may require 5G specially when utilizing camera as part of it.


....possibly bro but what application was that with Samsung? I remember 2G had WAP, GPRS which had very minimal mobile internet capability.

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Just want to share this video from Verizon. Look for team Balanghoy :D , the crew who were part of this history-making endeavor....

https://youtu.be/ni58XY3TbeU

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 Post subject: Re: 5G
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Don't fall for the hype (a.k.a. ultra creative marketing) which is pretty much coming from the entities who stand to profit from it. The fastest carrier network couldn't even currently approach the specified 4G speed let alone 5G specification. Doing a simple googling would yield a bunch of write-ups about the hype.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&ei=ozy5W56sHMWssgGkoJvABw&q=5g+hype&oq=5g+hype&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0i67j0l2j0i22i30l6.802298.806089..809114...1.0..1.1031.3957.2-4j0j2j0j1j1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131.iaWdGeJJpD0


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 Post subject: Re: 5G
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kulukuy wrote:
Don't fall for the hype (a.k.a. ultra creative marketing) which is pretty much coming from the entities who stand to profit from it. The fastest carrier network couldn't even currently approach the specified 4G speed let alone 5G specification. Doing a simple googling would yield a bunch of write-ups about the hype.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&ei=ozy5W56sHMWssgGkoJvABw&q=5g+hype&oq=5g+hype&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0i67j0l2j0i22i30l6.802298.806089..809114...1.0..1.1031.3957.2-4j0j2j0j1j1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131.iaWdGeJJpD0


You are partly correct but mostly wrong bro. Hype is self explanatory. Just like in boxing it's for marketing purposes.
But saying the fastest carrier network couldn't even currently approach the specified 4G speed is wrong. Let me ask you what is the fastest carrier network you know?

These are Telecommunication Standards. These are not only theories but were tested on the labs as well as on the field.

Just for your reference, A friend of mine just posted tonight on his FB the download speed he got with T-Mobile 4G Network at the Forum in LA. He is attending the Def Leppard/Journey concert with thousands of others in attendance. Yet he still got DL 117 Mbps and UL 38 Mbps. Refer below. 5G is more than this :D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: 5G
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:54 pm 
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liquid wrote:
kulukuy wrote:
Don't fall for the hype (a.k.a. ultra creative marketing) which is pretty much coming from the entities who stand to profit from it. The fastest carrier network couldn't even currently approach the specified 4G speed let alone 5G specification. Doing a simple googling would yield a bunch of write-ups about the hype.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&ei=ozy5W56sHMWssgGkoJvABw&q=5g+hype&oq=5g+hype&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0i67j0l2j0i22i30l6.802298.806089..809114...1.0..1.1031.3957.2-4j0j2j0j1j1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131.iaWdGeJJpD0


You are partly correct but mostly wrong bro. Hype is self explanatory. Just like in boxing it's for marketing purposes.
But saying the fastest carrier network couldn't even currently approach the specified 4G speed is wrong. Let me ask you what is the fastest carrier network you know?

These are Telecommunication Standards. These are not only theories but were tested on the labs as well as on the field.

Just for your reference, A friend of mine just posted tonight on his FB the download speed he got with T-Mobile 4G Network at the Forum in LA. He is attending the Def Leppard/Journey concert with thousands of others in attendance. Yet he still got DL 117 Mbps and UL 38 Mbps. Refer below. 5G is more than this :D :D :D

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Ya well, just for your reference, my buddy was out gulping with The Donald and was live streaming. He told me he was getting 187 Mbps on T-Mobile while doing it. So my buddy trumps (pun intended) your buddy in the reliability/integrity/honesty department cuz mine hangs out with the POTUS.

I'm confident that you are capable of simple googling with the appropriate search keys. If you could spend 10 seconds of your time to do so, you'll find a plethora of reliable reports/stats about this subject; much more reliable than your buddy and mine. So I'll leave it up to you to do your own homework. I'm also confident that after you've done this, you'll realize that my original statement is not wrong at all.


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 Post subject: Re: 5G
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:48 pm 
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@Kulukuy

I will not stop you from googling :D you are funny.

My friend is real person. You want his name and phone number? :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

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 Post subject: Re: 5G
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Even the fastest among the countries with the fastest 4G LTE or whatever the marketing nomenclature they currently use nowadays (i.e. LTE-A, WIMAX, etc.), the fact is that none of them comes close to the original "first generation" 4G specification of 100 Mbps for low mobility (i.e. riding in cars, etc.) and 1 Gbps low mobility (i.e. walking or stationary). So 5G is just another "next generation" snake oil they're about to peddle...just like they did with 4G...to yet again fleece us for more money. Don't take my word for it. Do your own research and post relevant and reliable data/stats here to prove me wrong:

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 Post subject: Re: 5G
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Oops! Typo.

That is 100 Mbps for "high" mobility and 1 Gbps for low mobility.


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 Post subject: Re: 5G
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:59 am 
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kulukuy wrote:
Oops! Typo.

That is 100 Mbps for "high" mobility and 1 Gbps for low mobility.


Siguro eto hindi typo :D

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Peace Bro Keep on googling :D

And btw, I don't have to research google because I am fortunate to be part of the team that build the 5G Network. :D
As soon as this baby is ready for testing I will share the results. This is not google bro this is the real deal AIR 5121

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 Post subject: Re: 5G
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liquid wrote:
kulukuy wrote:
Oops! Typo.

That is 100 Mbps for "high" mobility and 1 Gbps for low mobility.


Siguro eto hindi typo :D

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Peace Bro Keep on googling :D

And btw, I don't have to research google because I am fortunate to be part of the team that build the 5G Network. :D
As soon as this baby is ready for testing I will share the results. This is not google bro this is the real deal AIR 5121

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I didn't research it. I read the specs a long time ago when they started to peddle the 4G snake oil. So it's data from Q4 2017 which was just published early this year. If you wanna split hairs, then post recent/current worldwide data/stats that shows networks that reach 100 Mbps high-mobility and 1 Gbps low-mobility downlink speeds and prove me wrong. I'd like to believe you but so far, your argument is based on hearsay because you have not posted any proof to support it.

I really do not care if you are the scientist who came up with the theory and successfully experimented with it in the lab or whatever. Theory and experimentation is one thing. Real-world application is another. If you are a real tech guy, then you should know this. Case in point: the 4G fiasco as I have been stating.


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@Kulukuy PEACE Bro :D

Where is that hatred coming from?

I have really nothing to say to you anymore because as you said even if I am the scientist (I wish :( ) who developed this technology you don't care...WoW :shock: :shock: :shock: That says a lot.

I once provided an actual speedtest from a real person to prove your sweeping statement that none of the carrier network ever got the 4G speed wrong, but you mocked it with your POTUS liner....that was funny though. Credit to you :D

IoT/M2M will progress without you......but do you think you can endure without these life conveniences in the coming days, months, years, decade? Tell me you will not patronize none of these :lol:

Lastly, since you are a google person you can google all you want and post it here. Please include those entries that you don't want to read :D :D :D

fin de la historia, ten un buen dia amigo :peace:

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@Kulukuy PEACE Bro :D

Where is that hatred coming from?

I have really nothing to say to you anymore because as you said even if I am the scientist (I wish :( ) who developed this technology you don't care...WoW :shock: :shock: :shock: That says a lot.

I once provided an actual speedtest from a real person to prove your sweeping statement that none of the carrier network ever got the 4G speed wrong, but you mocked it with your POTUS liner....that was funny though. Credit to you :D

IoT/M2M will progress without you......but do you think you can endure without these life conveniences in the coming days, months, years, decade? Tell me you will not patronize none of these :lol:

Lastly, since you are a google person you can google all you want and post it here. Please include those entries that you don't want to read :D :D :D

fin de la historia, ten un buen dia amigo :peace:


The old "hatred/hating/hate" deflection tactic, eh. Furthermore, your elitism (or your effort to impress us that you are an elite technocrat) has been so transparent in your disparaging anti-googling comment as if you don't rely on it yourself. It means that you feel more "elite" than the true scientist/technocrats who depend on it to do their research. I guess you are not aware of the early history of the interweb before what it is today as we know it. It's funny that you keep posting "PEACE Bro" but continue your disparaging and dismissive ways (which has nothing to do with facts at that) on the same post. Why is that?

So you made a conclusion and declared in here that 4G is up to par with the original speed specification of 100 Mbps high-mobility and 1 Gbps low-mobility based on a single benchmark by your buddy using the Speedtest app while attending a concert against about 3 million users, 12.5 million completed tests and half a billion data points in the first half of 2018 in the US (actually, the 1 Gbps benchmark target is applicable to your buddy's situation since he was "stationary"). You're kidding, right? Here's the 2018 report by Ookla itself (owner/developer of Speedtest). Is this report recent and satisfactory enough for you? Perhaps it is not up to your standards because you're such a snob as far as googling is concerned but it exist so here it is:

http://www.speedtest.net/reports/united-states/

Have you just recently come across the acronym IoT and M2M, got overexcited about it and started this thread because you feel like you have discovered it first and feel the need to impress us? Where have you been? IoT/M2M has been around ever since the Internet came to be and even before that when they weren't called as such (industrial applications and what-not) and way before they entered into the public's consciousness just recently. Do you even understand what it really means? "IoT/M2M will progress without you"? Yet another elitist statement (however ignorant and misinformed) from a pretender. Give us a frigging break already! Actually, I'm ahead of you in that department. I have already read concepts about cryptocurrency/blockchain application in IoT that you couldn't even begin to imagine. Yes, you can find it by googling. Unfortunately (for you), you snobbishly belittle it because it is not good enough for you. So your loss.

Look, I merely called it like it is...based on facts and reliable data/stats. If you got offended by that and misconstrued it as "hatred" (I don't exactly know what of since you did not elaborate on it), then I can't help you there. I think it's either your paranoia or your futile attempt to save face in here is getting the better of you. I personally think it's the latter. Of all people, I would be one eager to support tech innovation/advancement including 5G, 6G, 7g...1000G. However, I am also pragmatic and usually do not allow myself to get sucked into a hype, most especially if the initiators who stand to profit by it have a track record of not delivering what they were hyping but instead, took advantage of it as an excuse to fleece consumers of their hard-earned money. Why are you defensive about that? What's our stake in it?

By all means. Please do post google entries that you think "I don't want to read"...whatever they are. There's but one caveat though: they better be based on facts and sound data/stats. Otherwise, you're just perpetuating your gossipmongering.

I guess you didn't "google" that last line of your post in Spanish, huh? To that end, here's my "google" reply to that:

Slutet av berättelsen? Det börjar bara bli intressant.


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Israeli Cyberexpert Detects China Hack in Ottawa, Warns Against Using Huawei 5G

OTTAWA—A Chinese telecommunication company secretly diverted Canadian internet traffic to China, particularly from Rogers subscribers in the Ottawa area, says an Israeli cybersecurity specialist.

The 2016 incident involved the surreptitious rerouting of the internet data of Rogers customers in and around Canada’s capital by China Telecom, a state-owned internet service provider that has two legally operating “points of presence” on Canadian soil, said Yuval Shavitt, an electrical-engineering expert at Tel Aviv University.

Shavitt told The Canadian Press that the China Telecom example should serve as a caution to the Canadian government not to do business with another Chinese telecommunications giant: Huawei Technologies, which is vying to build Canada’s next-generation 5G wireless communications networks.

“It’s too dangerous to let them in,” Shavitt said. “You can just imagine how Chinese companies are co-operating with the Chinese government.”

The Trudeau government is still deciding whether Huawei will be permitted to supply equipment and services to Canadian companies seeking to build the networks expected to serve everything from smartphones to autonomous cars.

That has become a politically charged decision with massive geopolitical implications since Canada arrested Huawei’s chief financial officer last month at the request of the U.S. It sparked a diplomatic crisis with the People’s Republic that has seen the jailing of two Canadian men working in China, and a death sentence imposed on a third man previously convicted of drug charges.

Shavitt’s warning comes as the U.S. Justice Department this week revealed the scope of its fraud and theft case against Huawei’s Meng Wanzhou. On Monday, the department unsealed 13 criminal counts of conspiracy, fraud, and obstruction against Meng, while her company’s U.S. branch was accused of stealing trade secrets and equipment from cellphone provider T-Mobile USA.

Huawei has denied that it co-operates with Chinese intelligence or ever would, saying that could be fatal to the company.

The 2016 Ottawa area incident that included Rogers was part of an attack in which Canadian internet data bound for South Korea was rerouted to China over a six-month period. The diversion of the South Korean data was first documented in a report last fall co-authored by Shavitt and Chris C. Demchak of the U.S. Naval War College.

The report described how China Telecom uses two points of presence in Canada and eight in the United States to take “information-rich” internet traffic crossing its network—part of the ordinary working of the internet, in which packets of data pass through numerous servers on the way to their destinations—and reroute it through China with no noticeable effect on customers.

China Telecom did not respond to a request for comment.

Rogers declined comment and referred the matter to the Public Safety Department.

Public Safety and Global Affairs Canada did not respond to requests for comment.

The Shavitt-Demchak report called internet points of presence the “perfect scenario for long-term espionage” because local alarm bells won’t be raised “about the long-term traffic detours.”

The Canada-South Korea diversion was discovered by a company Shavitt co-founded called BGProtect that monitors internet routing infrastructure and sells services to protect countries and corporations from internet hacks. He said he used some of his company’s data to write the academic paper with Demchak.

Shavitt described how hundreds of his company’s agents around the world monitor movements in the digital world. He said that could involve focusing on “a certain installation, an IP or server. We pick up locations around the world, and monitor the traffic and look for anomalies.”

“In this case the anomaly was from Canada.”

In a followup email, Shavitt provided further details: “Our software agent was indeed at Ottawa, but the attack had affected the entire Rogers network (at least) and its customers in the entire region.”

Shavitt said his company’s monitoring of Canada “was not dense enough” at the time of the attack to assess its full scope.

In the case of national network like Rogers’ in a large country such as Canada, the attack might affect only a “portion of the network, (but) usually still quite large ones—it depends how routing is configured. For example in our case, it may affect only Ontario and Quebec, but not the western regions of Canada,” Shavitt explained.

“I should say that the effect of the hijack is not only on Rogers’s direct customers (home and businesses) but also smaller networks in the affected regions that depend on Rogers for transit.”

A hijack attack can be used in many ways, including for espionage by “extracting important information from communication,” said Shavitt.

The attack can also be part of what is known as man-in-the-middle attacks, he said.

A man-in-the-middle attack can neutralize an organization’s internet security measures because it involves the insertion of a “bad actor” between a sender and the desired recipient, says the Shavitt-Demchak report.

When the internet traffic is rerouted into an adversary’s hands, “the attacker can learn enough to impersonate trusted sources” and “can allow the malicious attacker to harvest passwords,” the report says.

“With those keys to the victim’s network in hand, attackers can distort, disconnect, or destroy any part of the company’s network accessible from the internet, increasingly to include critical financial and physical systems and their backups.”

The Chinese government steadfastly denies engaging in cyberattacks.

In 2014, the federal government blamed a sophisticated state-sponsored Chinese entity for a breach that caused a shutdown of the National Research Council’s systems in Ottawa. China called that accusation reckless.

In 2016, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, or CSIS, warned that China and Russia were targeting Canadian government officials and information systems as well as classified information and advanced technology.

Without naming any countries, David Vigneault, CSIS’s new director, said in a December speech that “hostile foreign intelligence services” were targeting the “corporate secrets” and “intellectual property” of Canadian companies.

Vigneault said those state actors posed a greater threat to national security than terrorists do.

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