Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum

Discussion on boxing and other sports, Filipino greats and anything under the sun.
It is currently Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:41 pm

All times are UTC + 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:44 pm 
Offline
Heavyweight
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:04 am
Posts: 5233
I would have to say no
great fights...sure, but it is lacking in the competitive drama
that makes the trilogy great. for example, ali vs frazier
what makes a compelling trilogy imo is the unpredictablilty of the outcome

the last em-mp fight was a blow out and everyone predicted it to be
it was just a question of what round would it end


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:34 am 
Offline
Heavyweight
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:46 am
Posts: 4626
Location: GEORGE CARLIN (May 12, 1937–June 22, 2008)
burigs wrote:

In my young life, I ony have witnessed a few boxing trilogies. Four to be exact (Bowe-Holyfield, Morales-Barrera, Corrales-Casamayor, and Pacquiao-Morales). Among these, i'll say the Pacquiao-Morales Trilogy is the greatest. But that is only my opinion. I wonder if there are other trilogies better than the Pacquiao-Morales. And do you think the Pacquiao-Morales Trilogy is in the Top 5 ALL-TIME Greatest Trilogies?



no definitely


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:53 am 
Offline
Heavyweight
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:09 pm
Posts: 4916
LeeBOGs wrote:
MP-EM may be one of the most exciting trilogies because of the sheer excitement that Manny brings into the ring... But somehow, I still don't think it'll be an all-time great - maybe the greatest involving a Filipino - but it didn't have the same stigma that trilogies like Morales-Barrera and Ali-Frazier had...there wasn't much off-the-ring drama to add hype or bad blood to the fights... Both fighters were good, but both pretty much just did their thing... And it wasn't as brutal as the other all-time great trilogies...maybe if the last 2 fights were as close as the 1st fight, and maybe if there was more bad blood between them, it may be in the running for the all-time great trilogies...

Actually, i think Manny's dominance over his opponents is also what makes it harder to consider his fights among the all-time greats... maybe when he's met his match - and I mean an opponent who can constantly give MP hell in the ring for 3 fights - maybe then, he'll have a trilogy for the all-time greats...


I respect your opinion.

Even though you have a different criteria of how a fight trilogy can
be called great, you are right in your own way.

Keep punchin....and enjoy the sport.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:59 am 
Offline
Middleweight
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:09 pm
Posts: 853
Location: San Francisco
well as expected, people here would say yes, BUT

i do not think it was one of the greatest...i'd say it was one of the most exciting in our time, BUT, NOT the best...

then again, it's an opinion so I can't be right and I can't be wrong..

I'd say Gatti-Ward was one of the "greater" trilogies we have had in our time.

i believe that in order for a trilogy to be great, both fighters need to have fought evenly and that you did not know who would have won the fight..that idea of uncertainty is what MAKES trilogies special..


well, again, this is all opinion..take what you can out of it..

_________________
"But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
(Matthew 12:36-37)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:41 pm 
Offline
Light Heavyweight

Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:45 pm
Posts: 1128
Not if you're a Morales fan. :biglaugh:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:50 pm 
Offline
Heavyweight
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:10 pm
Posts: 13594
Location: Edmonton / Las Pinas
Pac-Morales 3 was indeed very exciting and crowd participation had a lot to do with it. Probably the loudest? :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:09 pm 
Offline
Middleweight

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:12 am
Posts: 649
JoeyInCali wrote:
The greatest trilogy is the Ali-Frazier trilogy of course.
Zale-Graciano second
MAB-EM
Gatti-Ward


Close to ESPN's assessment

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=2660211

This was before MP-EM III though. which I think is fourth overall, just below MAB-EM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:29 pm 
Offline
Strawweight
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:10 am
Posts: 7
Location: antipolo, phils.
great trilogy indeed, but if we're talking about GOAT(greatest of all time) definitely no, not even in top 20....imo.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:31 pm 
Offline
Heavyweight
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:58 pm
Posts: 6610
Location: Quezon City
For me EM-MAB trilogy is better than EM-PAC trilogy because the fight were very competitively close for 36 rounds. The third fight of EM-PAC was a landslide victory.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:31 pm 
Offline
Cruiserweight
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:06 pm
Posts: 2887
Location: Sta.Cruz. Manila
I have reservation because of the third fight... It was too quick and one-sided.. but it is certainly one of the most exciting and dramatic

Catillo-Corrales could have been one if they only agreed to fought on 140 lbs... or Castillo kept strict diet...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:16 pm 
Offline
Cruiserweight

Joined: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:46 am
Posts: 2596
Location: Bay Area
Ali-Frazier is the greatest trilogy. The Zale-Graziano fights were awesome. The 3rd Pac/Morales fight was too one-sided to be considered one of the greats.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:56 pm 
Offline
Cruiserweight
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:15 am
Posts: 2730
Location: Marikina
a5sk1ck wrote:
Pac-Morales 3 was indeed very exciting and crowd participation had a lot to do with it. Probably the loudest? :lol:
that's right bro 8) :toast:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:18 pm 
Offline
Lightweight
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 2:51 pm
Posts: 174
The first 2 fights of MP-EM were great.............however due to the absolute dominance of MP in the 3rd fight its hard to count it as one of the stated fights. Those legendary trilogies showed each player dominating each other and outsmarting each other, you can't deny the drama of those fights. Due to pacman's dominance over EM in the 3rd fight Its hard to count their trilogy under the top 5, probably under the top 10.


Last edited by shananigans on Fri May 25, 2007 7:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:24 pm 
Offline
Heavyweight
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:17 pm
Posts: 4032
Location: Birkenhead, UK
Manny Pacquiao is the only fighter who could give the most exciting fight of all time irrespective of who he fought which is why he should remain the world's best P4P. But if asked which of his three fights with Erik Morales is best, oh, I certainly say the Pacquiao-Morales II. It was the first time that Morales was decked in his entire boxing carreer,and was also his first time to be KO without reaching the last and final round. :D


Last edited by Samanea Saman on Fri May 25, 2007 7:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:45 pm 
Offline
Welterweight

Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:44 pm
Posts: 497
DEFINITELY ONE OF THE GREATEST BUT NOT THE BEST!!!
ALI VS. FRAZIER, was probably the best, because of the sheer animosity between the fighters.
MAB vs. EM, also ranks higher that PAC vs. EM, because it went the full distance of 36 rounds, the 1st and 3rd fight was pure non-stop action, boxing at its best...
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. La Motta, was also great, although it was not really a trilogy, as they fought at least five times...
Chiquita Gonzales vs. Carbajal, was also great...
In my opinion PAC vs. EM, is on the top ten all time great trilogy fights


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC + 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

philboxing.com | pinoygreats.com
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group