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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:27 am 
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It is proven that there has been discrimination in Olympic Boxing particularly the scoring system against 3rd world country like the Philippines. Who will forget Onyok Velasco's rare shot for the gold against Bugilov of Bulgaria during the then Atlanta Olympics in 1996.

Onyok could've lost that precious bout but not that big wide margin! Some fellas even opined that Onyok won that fight but alas, t'was a one sided button. In this regard, with the emergence and showing of Pinoy prowess in boxing recently, would the impression to us by boxing afficionados around the globe be reverted to a favorable one? Am pretty sure that past Olympics boxing judges were also alarmed of Pinoy's capabilty in this sport. Count the upcoming Jurors in Beijing 2008.

Yes, only amateurs are being sent to Olympic Boxing but I believe that our professional boxers esp. Pacman will somehow lessen discrimination in future stagings. Our boxers have earned the respect around the world.

Brotha Paclanders, what is your input on this?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:52 am 
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Manny Steward said in 1996 boxers from ex-communist countries were highly favored.
Maybe that explains it.
I wouldn't call it discrimination. I'd call it bias.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:56 am 
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it's normal to favor the countryman... remember roy jones jr in korea? he won that fight but it was given to the korean boxer... where is that korean boxer now???? who knows.. while roy jones jr became multi division champion :D


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:10 am 
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Yes, we may also derive it from adjectives Bias, Unfair, Favoritism etc... I just hope we be given fair treatment this time.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:13 am 
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lolz kahit d2 nangyayari yan eh hehehhe

peace !


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:24 am 
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alkatots wrote:
lolz kahit d2 nangyayari yan eh hehehhe

peace !


Yup! This happens everywhere but in Olympics it's entirely different as there are so many delegates. It is somehow be considered as a neutral ground if pugs of host country are eliminated.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:32 am 
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Btw, I don't think Onyok won that fight.
Amateur scoring is just flawed. Body punches don't count for much. Plus a faster puncher can actually outbutton the judges. Slow judges can't see or react fast enough for faster punches sometimes. It was proven in the Griffith loss where the Nigerian judge just could not hit the punch count button fast enough.
Of course the Roy Jones loss to the Korean in Seoul was the worst decision ever in boxing.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:17 pm 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
Manny Steward said in 1996 boxers from ex-communist countries were highly favored.
Maybe that explains it.
I wouldn't call it discrimination. I'd call it bias.


Why? Barriga was robbed from that Kazhak also.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:55 pm 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
Manny Steward said in 1996 boxers from ex-communist countries were highly favored.
Maybe that explains it.
I wouldn't call it discrimination. I'd call it bias.




how come?


what made the ex commis special to them?

could that be the explanation cubans dominate ammy boxing.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:55 pm 
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freewheeze wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
Manny Steward said in 1996 boxers from ex-communist countries were highly favored.
Maybe that explains it.
I wouldn't call it discrimination. I'd call it bias.




how come?


what made the ex commis special to them?

could that be the explanation cubans dominate ammy boxing.


I'm curious about Manny Steward's reason also. We have been robbed because of this.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:30 am 
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My kumpare told me that OLYMPIC is more of a BUSINESS in nature aside from the idea of sport competition and sense of unity among nations.
As much as possible, those countries that have more candidates, representatives, viewers/ticket buyers, tourists, and lastly, with direct OLYMPIC media/TV coverage are favored to win during closed fights/matches.

Notice those countries like USA, CHINA, JAPAN, AUS, Canada, New Zealand, European countries, and especially the HOST nation dominate on the events that are won through judging, decisions or in closed fights. :shock: :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:35 am 
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mysql wrote:
freewheeze wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
Manny Steward said in 1996 boxers from ex-communist countries were highly favored.
Maybe that explains it.
I wouldn't call it discrimination. I'd call it bias.




how come?


what made the ex commis special to them?

could that be the explanation cubans dominate ammy boxing.


I'm curious about Manny Steward's reason also. We have been robbed because of this.

The organizers were happy to see them participate.
Remember the 1984 games was boycotted by Russia and Cuba.
The '76 games was boycotted by some African nations.
These ex-commie countries make up for great stories whenever one of their athletes win a gold.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:02 am 
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we should stop first dreaming about an olympic medal instead focus to break all record in asean games.

wrong forum na hukay pa.


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