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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:56 am 
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diego_odchimar_iv wrote:
"he’s not keen on fighting for a world title because of the high sanction fees charged by the governing bodies. He estimated an average of $150,000 is taken off the purse of a fighter in his category to pay for title recognition by a “world” organization"

CAN YOU PACMAN A CHAMPION WHEN HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP??????????????

THE SECTORS THAT CALLS PACMAN CHAMPION ARE:

MEDIA-BECAUSE THEY WANT TO USE PACMAN TO GENERATE SALES AND PROFIT.AN STORY ABOUT PACMAN WILL OBVIOUSLY GENERATE SALES,ADVERTISING INCOME ETC..

POLITICIANS-BECAUSE THEY USE A LITTLE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY WITH PACMAN FOR THEIR POLITICAL AMBITION.BUT WHAT HAPPENED NOW TO A FORMER MAYOR,FORMER GOVERNOR WHO RUN FOR SENATOR AND A BOXER WHO RUN FOR CONGRESSMAN BUT WAS DEFEATED BY AN INCUMBENT PETITE LADY SOLON????

GAMBLERS-BECAUSE, THEY DO NOT CARE,IF PACMAN WILL FIGHT FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP OR A NON TITLE FIGHT BECAUSE THEY WILL EARN IN GAMBLING EVERY TIME PACMAN FIGHTS. BUT WE'RE A THOSE MILLIONS OF FILIPINOS WHO LOANED MONEY JUST TO BET A CHANCE ON PACMAN?

I MAINTAINED,IT IS NOT CRAB MENTALITY OF DISLIKING PACMAN.I WANT HIM TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.I REPEAT FOR THOSE DUMB PACLANDERS HERE,I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION BECAUSE HE SAID BEFORE THAT HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A WORLD CHAMPIONHIP BECAUSE OF SANCTION FEES.

I REPEAT, I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.

CAN YOU THINK OF NBA WITHOUT CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT?
MISS UNIVERSE WITHOUT THE TITLE?
TENNIS WITHOUT WIMBLEDON TITLE?

NOW, PACMAN-BARRERA, A NON TILE FIGHT???

NOW, CAN YOU CALL IT A TRAIT OF A CHAMPION????????????????



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:00 am 
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what word is better than a champion? that's Pacman. 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:04 am 
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johnbosays wrote:
diego_odchimar_iv wrote:
"he’s not keen on fighting for a world title because of the high sanction fees charged by the governing bodies. He estimated an average of $150,000 is taken off the purse of a fighter in his category to pay for title recognition by a “world” organization"

CAN YOU PACMAN A CHAMPION WHEN HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP??????????????

THE SECTORS THAT CALLS PACMAN CHAMPION ARE:

MEDIA-BECAUSE THEY WANT TO USE PACMAN TO GENERATE SALES AND PROFIT.AN STORY ABOUT PACMAN WILL OBVIOUSLY GENERATE SALES,ADVERTISING INCOME ETC..

POLITICIANS-BECAUSE THEY USE A LITTLE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY WITH PACMAN FOR THEIR POLITICAL AMBITION.BUT WHAT HAPPENED NOW TO A FORMER MAYOR,FORMER GOVERNOR WHO RUN FOR SENATOR AND A BOXER WHO RUN FOR CONGRESSMAN BUT WAS DEFEATED BY AN INCUMBENT PETITE LADY SOLON????

GAMBLERS-BECAUSE, THEY DO NOT CARE,IF PACMAN WILL FIGHT FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP OR A NON TITLE FIGHT BECAUSE THEY WILL EARN IN GAMBLING EVERY TIME PACMAN FIGHTS. BUT WE'RE A THOSE MILLIONS OF FILIPINOS WHO LOANED MONEY JUST TO BET A CHANCE ON PACMAN?

I MAINTAINED,IT IS NOT CRAB MENTALITY OF DISLIKING PACMAN.I WANT HIM TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.I REPEAT FOR THOSE DUMB PACLANDERS HERE,I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION BECAUSE HE SAID BEFORE THAT HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A WORLD CHAMPIONHIP BECAUSE OF SANCTION FEES.

I REPEAT, I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.

CAN YOU THINK OF NBA WITHOUT CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT?
MISS UNIVERSE WITHOUT THE TITLE?
TENNIS WITHOUT WIMBLEDON TITLE?

NOW, PACMAN-BARRERA, A NON TILE FIGHT???

NOW, CAN YOU CALL IT A TRAIT OF A CHAMPION????????????????

I suggest you look up Pacman's bios in BoxRec. Pacman's been 2 division world champion and is reigning WBC international champion. He's defeated the best of world champions and he's facing 3 division champion and a future Hall of Famer in Barrera on Oct. 6. What would you suggest to call Pacman then? A world champion without a title, a People's champion, a Champion's champion, words, words, words, I don't even understand what's the fuss is all about!! Iyo na ang belt mo.Besides how can somebody claim a legitimate world champion nowadays with so many world sanctioning bodies.


he called pacman the "best actor" :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:11 am 
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what??!!! $150k for the belt? too expensive! no wonder why PAC doesnt want to pay, in baclaran its only a 100 pesos!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:13 am 
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johnbosays wrote:
diego_odchimar_iv wrote:
"he’s not keen on fighting for a world title because of the high sanction fees charged by the governing bodies. He estimated an average of $150,000 is taken off the purse of a fighter in his category to pay for title recognition by a “world” organization"

CAN YOU PACMAN A CHAMPION WHEN HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP??????????????

THE SECTORS THAT CALLS PACMAN CHAMPION ARE:

MEDIA-BECAUSE THEY WANT TO USE PACMAN TO GENERATE SALES AND PROFIT.AN STORY ABOUT PACMAN WILL OBVIOUSLY GENERATE SALES,ADVERTISING INCOME ETC..

POLITICIANS-BECAUSE THEY USE A LITTLE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY WITH PACMAN FOR THEIR POLITICAL AMBITION.BUT WHAT HAPPENED NOW TO A FORMER MAYOR,FORMER GOVERNOR WHO RUN FOR SENATOR AND A BOXER WHO RUN FOR CONGRESSMAN BUT WAS DEFEATED BY AN INCUMBENT PETITE LADY SOLON????

GAMBLERS-BECAUSE, THEY DO NOT CARE,IF PACMAN WILL FIGHT FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP OR A NON TITLE FIGHT BECAUSE THEY WILL EARN IN GAMBLING EVERY TIME PACMAN FIGHTS. BUT WE'RE A THOSE MILLIONS OF FILIPINOS WHO LOANED MONEY JUST TO BET A CHANCE ON PACMAN?

I MAINTAINED,IT IS NOT CRAB MENTALITY OF DISLIKING PACMAN.I WANT HIM TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.I REPEAT FOR THOSE DUMB PACLANDERS HERE,I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION BECAUSE HE SAID BEFORE THAT HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A WORLD CHAMPIONHIP BECAUSE OF SANCTION FEES.

I REPEAT, I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.

CAN YOU THINK OF NBA WITHOUT CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT?
MISS UNIVERSE WITHOUT THE TITLE?
TENNIS WITHOUT WIMBLEDON TITLE?

NOW, PACMAN-BARRERA, A NON TILE FIGHT???

NOW, CAN YOU CALL IT A TRAIT OF A CHAMPION????????????????

I suggest you look up Pacman's bios in BoxRec. Pacman's been 2 division world champion and is reigning WBC international champion. He's defeated the best of world champions and he's facing 3 division champion and a future Hall of Famer in Barrera on Oct. 6. What would you suggest to call Pacman then? A world champion without a title, a People's champion, a Champion's champion, words, words, words, I don't even understand what's the fuss is all about!! Iyo na ang belt mo.Besides how can somebody claim a legitimate world champion nowadays with so many world sanctioning bodies.


Word. To me, belts are less meaningful today. There is no such thing as a true world champion. If you hold the WBC belt, you're simply the champion of the WBC sanctioning body or the "champion of the WBC world". Same thing for all the other belts and boxing orgs. It doesn't mean that you're truly THE world champion. Maybe it would be different if a boxer were able to win all the belts out there. But heck, there are like a million different belts right now. Just imagine how much you have to pay in fees in order to unify. Then, you pay again when you defend.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:25 am 
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it's not barrera's fault that he lost his title against marquez.. oh wait.. yeah it is .. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:54 am 
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The title of your post should be "Pacman Not a Champion???Are you joking???"


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:02 am 
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Nuthuggerz..... ATTACK!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:09 am 
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philboxfan wrote:
Let me ask you this bro, would rather have him fight Mzonke Fana, the IBF champion, and have MP pay that ridiculous sanctioning fees than fight MAB just for the sake of fighting for the belt? All these so called alphabet belts interest is collecting their sacntioning fees and the moment they have the chance to screw you, they will so they can collect more sanctioning fees. Think about this bro, if MP has one of those belts besides the ring magazine belt, they will require him to defend this title against their so called "mandatory challengers" or be stripped of the title. This means lesser money than fighting for those higher profile bouts.


Promoters are higher than sanctioning bodies. That's the truth! The pros and cons on this discussion has a point. Manny really needs a belt, that's true and Who needs belt and less money than no belt but more money, that's also true.

My point here is that it's not true that Manny avoided the belt because of sanctioning fees. Manny wants belt. But remember boxing is also a business as well as a sport and Manny is not a promoter and a boxer. With the things going on, Manny is near in wearing belts (not only a belt). Huwag lang kayong magmadali. Let's enjoy the moment.

For the above quote also that regarded a belt as nothing (alphabet belts). then why celebrate our 3 boxers who got these belts? Having a belt is very very important. Just don't be in a hurry. If Manny retires without any belt is SF then let's just say it's not really for him or missing the oppurtune time and don't blame PACMAN.[/quote]

Bro, I suggest you read carefully if I said anything about the alphabet belts being regarded as nothing. What I am saying here is that all other belts require you to pay sanctioning fees and that only the Ring Magazine belt doesn't. All other alphabet belts require you to defend your belt against your mandatory challenger or be stripped and the Ring Magazine does not. Besides, we all know the politics that goes on with mandatory so MP will end up fighting some bums for chump change compared to fighting somebody without a belt like a MAB who by the way destroyed Mzonke Fana, the holder of the IBF belt, in 2 rounds a couple of years ago.

And regarding our 3 world champions, of course we are proud of them winning world championship belts. But they're not in the level of MP to dictate what they want that's why they need those belts. :peace:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:36 am 
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Sanction fee of $150,000 for WBC alone! What if Pac collected the other belts.... IBF, WBO, WBA, etc....... so everytime there is a unification fight the fighters will be paying those sanctioning fees for each title...... if you add them all medyo malaki yun lalo na kung sabay sabay....... eh pang taya rin sa casino, sabong tsaka bilyar yun.... sayang..... maganda palang racket yun ah...... makagawa na lang ng sariling sanctioning org. tapos every week may championship fight in different divisions kahit $100,000 na lang yung sanctioning fee ok na.

There should only be ONE universal sanctioning body, pag marami nawawalan ng credibility.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:46 am 
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Seriously, I wan't to see PACMAN unify all belts before he retires.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:32 am 
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pac doesn't need a belt to make money.. we all know making money is his sole intention. besides, WBC International is useless.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:52 am 
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Championship belts are good because they formally make a boxer a "champion". But Pacman does not need that as he wants millions in money!!! Coz the belt cannot be used in his gambling activities like Sabong, Bilyar, Baraha, Casino etc. LOL!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:58 am 
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It's because boxing is so screwed up with so many phoney alpahabet belts. The Ring belt holder is the true champ.


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diego_odchimar_iv wrote:
"he’s not keen on fighting for a world title because of the high sanction fees charged by the governing bodies. He estimated an average of $150,000 is taken off the purse of a fighter in his category to pay for title recognition by a “world” organization"

CAN YOU PACMAN A CHAMPION WHEN HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP??????????????

THE SECTORS THAT CALLS PACMAN CHAMPION ARE:

MEDIA-BECAUSE THEY WANT TO USE PACMAN TO GENERATE SALES AND PROFIT.AN STORY ABOUT PACMAN WILL OBVIOUSLY GENERATE SALES,ADVERTISING INCOME ETC..

POLITICIANS-BECAUSE THEY USE A LITTLE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY WITH PACMAN FOR THEIR POLITICAL AMBITION.BUT WHAT HAPPENED NOW TO A FORMER MAYOR,FORMER GOVERNOR WHO RUN FOR SENATOR AND A BOXER WHO RUN FOR CONGRESSMAN BUT WAS DEFEATED BY AN INCUMBENT PETITE LADY SOLON????

GAMBLERS-BECAUSE, THEY DO NOT CARE,IF PACMAN WILL FIGHT FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP OR A NON TITLE FIGHT BECAUSE THEY WILL EARN IN GAMBLING EVERY TIME PACMAN FIGHTS. BUT WE'RE A THOSE MILLIONS OF FILIPINOS WHO LOANED MONEY JUST TO BET A CHANCE ON PACMAN?

I MAINTAINED,IT IS NOT CRAB MENTALITY OF DISLIKING PACMAN.I WANT HIM TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.I REPEAT FOR THOSE DUMB PACLANDERS HERE,I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION BECAUSE HE SAID BEFORE THAT HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN FIGHTING FOR A WORLD CHAMPIONHIP BECAUSE OF SANCTION FEES.

I REPEAT, I WANT PACMAN TO BECOME A WORLD CHAMPION.

CAN YOU THINK OF NBA WITHOUT CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT?
MISS UNIVERSE WITHOUT THE TITLE?
TENNIS WITHOUT WIMBLEDON TITLE?

NOW, PACMAN-BARRERA, A NON TILE FIGHT???

NOW, CAN YOU CALL IT A TRAIT OF A CHAMPION????????????????

:D

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