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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:50 am 
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die hard!!! wrote:
To my fellow Paclanders,

I just want to share some of the ReKnown "CATCHWEIGHTS FIGHTS IN BOXING HISTORY" ! Just feel Free to Add more; You can Add more :D

1. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Donny Lalonde @ 167lbs limit
2. Bernard Hopkins vs Oscar DeLa Hoya @ 155lbs limit
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Juan Manuel Marquez @ 144lbs limit
4. Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto @ 145lbs limit
5. Juan Diaz vs Paulie Malignaggi @ 138lbs limit
6. Zab Judah vs Jose Armando Santa Cruz @ 143lbs limit
7. Shane Mosley vs Sergio Mora @ 154 limit

for Info/note:
+Sergio Martinez had said already that he is willing to go down a little bit Only to fight against Floyd MayweatherJr or Manny Pacquiao at 155lbs CatchWeight for his WBC160lbs world title on the line.

+ Andre Berto also had said already that he is willing to go down a little bit Only to fight against Timothy Bradley at 142-143lbs CatchWeight for his WBC147lbs world title on the line.


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GOD bless us all !!!


Mora penalized almost $60,000 for being three lbs. over vs. Mosley
September 18th, 2010 12:51 am CT
http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-dalla ... -vs-mosley

Sergio Mora was fined a whopping $57,000 Friday afternoon for weighing in three pounds over the contractual 154 lbs. weight for his fight with "Sugar" Shane Mosley Saturday at the Los Angeles Staples Center. That was a 20% penalty of his purse.

Mosley and Mora Battle to a Draw in Lackluster Affair
By Ben Thompson September 18, 2010
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content8433.html

Prefight:
The underdog, comes out first. He looks angry and yet confident, as if he has a chip on his shoulders and something to prove. Shane Mosley comes out next wearing the red, green and whit colors of Mexico. He’s all smiles as usual. Both fighters weighed in officially tonight at 164 lbs.

Note: Mosley last fought as WW and Mora is a known MW, hence the Jr MW 154 is considered a catchweight like the Pac-Dela Hoya fight.

The very recent catchweight fight between Mosley vs Mora is a very good example to explain the catchweight is a very legitimate demand to “level the playing field”. Mosley and Mora agreed to fight at 154 lbs. “day before” weigh-in and both came at 164 at fight night. If the limit is 154 Jr. Middleweight agreed weight, they actually fought as Super MW at the ring.
Now if Manny were to fight Mosley at 154 (no catchweight), a 150 lb Manny will be fighting a 164 lb Mosley at fight night. A 14 lb difference is a no-no for Manny and Mosley knows that. So, even before the Pac-Margo fight is over Mosley challenges Manny at 147. Sergio Martinez and Andre Berto understand what a catchweight is also, but a few anti-catchweight Paclanders do not.

A point to ponder: If Manny Pacquiao and Margarito were to fight with rules following Armstrongs time, who do you think wins – a 150 lb Manny Pacquiao or a 154 lb (not 165) Margarito? Manny Pacquiao has been fighting bigger opponents than most Old Time boxers except maybe Henry Armstrong.

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die hard!!! wrote:
To my fellow Paclanders,

I just want to share some of the ReKnown "CATCHWEIGHTS FIGHTS IN BOXING HISTORY" ! Just feel Free to Add more; You can Add more :D

1. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Donny Lalonde @ 167lbs limit
2. Bernard Hopkins vs Oscar DeLa Hoya @ 155lbs limit
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Juan Manuel Marquez @ 144lbs limit
4. Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto @ 145lbs limit
5. Juan Diaz vs Paulie Malignaggi @ 138lbs limit
6. Zab Judah vs Jose Armando Santa Cruz @ 143lbs limit
7. Shane Mosley vs Sergio Mora @ 154 limit

for Info/note:
+Sergio Martinez had said already that he is willing to go down a little bit Only to fight against Floyd MayweatherJr or Manny Pacquiao at 155lbs CatchWeight for his WBC160lbs world title on the line.

+ Andre Berto also had said already that he is willing to go down a little bit Only to fight against Timothy Bradley at 142-143lbs CatchWeight for his WBC147lbs world title on the line.


Mabuhay ang dugong Pilipino, mabuhay ang mga Kawal Pinoy, mabuhay si idol MP.
GOD bless us all !!!


Mora penalized almost $60,000 for being three lbs. over vs. Mosley
September 18th, 2010 12:51 am CT
http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-dalla ... -vs-mosley

Sergio Mora was fined a whopping $57,000 Friday afternoon for weighing in three pounds over the contractual 154 lbs. weight for his fight with "Sugar" Shane Mosley Saturday at the Los Angeles Staples Center. That was a 20% penalty of his purse.

Mosley and Mora Battle to a Draw in Lackluster Affair
By Ben Thompson September 18, 2010
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content8433.html

Prefight:
The underdog, comes out first. He looks angry and yet confident, as if he has a chip on his shoulders and something to prove. Shane Mosley comes out next wearing the red, green and whit colors of Mexico. He’s all smiles as usual. Both fighters weighed in officially tonight at 164 lbs.

Note: Mosley last fought as WW and Mora is a known MW, hence the Jr MW 154 is considered a catchweight like the Pac-Dela Hoya fight.

The very recent catchweight fight between Mosley vs Mora is a very good example to explain the catchweight is a very legitimate demand to “level the playing field”. Mosley and Mora agreed to fight at 154 lbs. “day before” weigh-in and both came at 164 at fight night. If the limit is 154 Jr. Middleweight agreed weight, they actually fought as Super MW at the ring.
Now if Manny were to fight Mosley at 154 (no catchweight), a 150 lb Manny will be fighting a 164 lb Mosley at fight night. A 14 lb difference is a no-no for Manny and Mosley knows that. So, even before the Pac-Margo fight is over Mosley challenges Manny at 147. Sergio Martinez and Andre Berto understand what a catchweight is also, but a few anti-catchweight Paclanders do not.

A point to ponder: If Manny Pacquiao and Margarito were to fight with rules following Armstrongs time, who do you think wins – a 150 lb Manny Pacquiao or a 154 lb (not 165) Margarito? Manny Pacquiao has been fighting bigger opponents than most Old Time boxers except maybe Henry Armstrong.

+Thanks for you valid point bro. very well said. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:01 am 
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MARTINEZ-WILLIAMS II
Although their first fight was contracted at the middleweight limit of 160 pounds, the rematch, which will be for Martinez's world title, is contracted at a Catch Weight of 157 pounds, which is what Williams weighed for the first fight; Martinez came in at 159.

"It's at 157 because we DIDN'T Have a Choice," DiBella said. "Williams WANTED the Catch Weight. There was an issue on the weight and we gave on the weight."

LINK: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=5597500 By Dan Rafael DTD September 20, 2010, 9:31 PM ET

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:00 am 
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A recently edited definition of a catchweight is printed below. The highlighted portions are our own contributions. I really hope it reflects the views of the majority of those who participated or read the discussions in this forum. This effort is to clarify that a title won on a catchweight is not only as legitimate but more courageous (for the smaller fighter) than a traditional title when fighters were weighed-in the day of the fight (meaning both have almost the same weight on fight time). It is also to highlight the fact that some fighters are cheating the weights by not coming prepared to pass a weigh-in, getting penalized and come at a huge weight advantage on fight night. In addition to the Gatti-Gamache mismatch we have the Jose Luis Castillo vs Diego Corrales and Mayweather vs Marquez bouts. Again I hope we all support a campaign to clarify these issues on catchweights. Thank you.

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A catch weight is a term used in combat sports such as boxing and mixed martial arts to describe a weight limit for a fight that does not fall in line with the traditional limits for weight classes. In boxing, a catch-weight is negotiated to “level the playing field” when the weigh-ins are conducted a day before the fight.

Explanation

Strictly speaking, a catch-weight in boxing is used to describe a weight limit for a fight that does not fall in line with the limits for the expanded weight classes; after the traditional rules of “day of” fight were changed to “day before” fight weigh-ins and after the traditional 8 weight divisions were expanded to 17 weight classes.

An agreed weight was used to describe a catch-weight in the traditional way, when only eight (8) division limits existed and all weigh-ins were done “day or hours” before the fight. A historical marker that points to when “day of” fight ended is the advent of television. In boxing and in Muhammad Ali’s time, they started televising the weigh-in proceedings to promote fights necessitating a “day before” fight weigh-in.

The difference between a boxing catch-weight and an MMA catch-weight is the time when the fighters are weighed in. In boxing, the weigh-ins are made a “day before” the fight so that the catch-weight limit and specific penalties are already agreed before the weigh-ins. In MMA, the weigh-ins are made “night of” the fights so that the catch-weight limit and penalties are only agreed after the weigh-ins.

With modern conditioning and training methods, today’s fighters are able to cut weight for a “day before” fight weigh-in and regain the same weight on “day of” the fight. Reference: How to Cut and Make Weight – Martin Rooney. [1]6. http://www.grapplearts.com/How-to-Cut-Weight.html

The purpose of a catch-weight is to compensate for the ability of bigger boxers to cut weight before a “day before” fight weigh-in and re-build to a weight more than the specified limit (division or catch-weight) on “day of” the fight with little effects to his performance. The catch weight is not only to provide a level playing field but also to prevent weight mismatches that can endanger the fighters. And more importantly, the catch-weight is to ensure the fight is not canceled due last minute disagreement on fight time.

A case of a weight mismatch is the Arturo Gatti vs Joey Gamache fight. In the controversial fight between Gatti vs Gamache, Gamache's handlers claimed Gatti had gained 19 pounds since the weigh-in the “day before” and thus had a large advantage over Gamache. This resulted in serious injuries to the smaller Gamache. After Gatti-Gamache, some boxing commissions started weighing boxers a second time. [2]5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arturo_Gatti


Combat sports commonly have defined weight classes with specific weight limits. For example, each boxing division with the exception of heavyweight has its own limits for weight classes, ranging from 105 pounds for minimumweight to 200 pounds for cruiserweight and varying in range in the weight classes in between. In order to fight for a championship in these weight classes the fighters must come in to the fight at or below said weight.

In another example, fighters can agree to fight at a formal weight; however, at weigh-in a fighter can come in over the formal weight. So the fight is not canceled, an agreement may be reached where the fight is made at a catch weight. Commonly, the fighter who comes in overweight pays a penalty - for example a 20% penalty with 10% going to the fighter who made weight and 10% going to a commission sanctioning the fight. An example of this catch weight situation occurred at UFC 104 where Anthony Johnson came in over the welterweight limit of 170 for his fight against Yoshiyuki Yoshida. While commissions sometimes give a one pound grace, Johnson came in at 176. An agreement was made that the fight would occur at a catch weight of 176.[1]http://mmajunkie.com/news/16599/ufc-104-official-weigh-in-results-live-from-the-l-a-live-event-deck.mma

Oftentimes, catch weight fights are still considered fights within a formal weight class. For example, when Manny Pacquiao fought Miguel Cotto, the fight was at a catch weight of 145 pounds to accommodate Pacquiao's smaller physique. Boxing has a junior welterweight weight class with a weight limit of 140 and a welterweight weight class with a weight limit of 147. Since the fight was under the 147 limit and above the 140 limit, the fight was considered a welterweight fight as well as being considered a catch weight fight. In addition, the World Boxing Organization sanctioned this fight for the welterweight title since the fight was under the welterweight limit.[2]http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/guzmancotto111309.html

Catchweight fights can also occur when fighters decide to meet at a weight class limit that is in between the two fighters normal weight classes. For example when Manny Pacquiao fought Oscar De La Hoya the fight took place at the 147lb weight class which is a welterweight fight. But the fighters used the weightclass as a catchweight since De La Hoya was fighting above 147 at the time and Pacquiao was fighting below 147.
Another example was at UFC 99 when Wanderlei Silva fought Rich Franklin at a catch weight bout of 195 pounds. Silva typically fought at the Light Heavyweight weight class of 205 pounds, while Franklin fought at the Middleweight weight class of 185 pounds. They agreed on a catch weight bout, and both men weighed in at 194 for the fight.[3]http://www.ufc.com/news/Official_UFC_99_WeighIn_Results


More detailed explanations:

1. All known “catchweights” in the Old Time era were non title fights and weigh ins were made “day or hours” of the fight, meaning both fighters have almost the same weight in the ring. They fought for the glory and for the money and not for a title.

2. Most of known catchweights in the modern era are title bouts except non-title exhibition matches like the Pac-Dela Hoya Dream Match and those that degenerated to non-title bouts; and matches pitting old warriors fighting for their “retirement benefits”

3. The most glaring difference that can be attributed to “day before” and “day of” fight weigh ins are in comparing the boxing catchweight and MMA catchweight limits. In boxing the catchweight is below the division limit while in MMA the catchweight is above the division limit (or the weight of the fighter who comes heavier and gets penalized so as not to cancel the fight). See Yoshida vs Johnson in above example.

+Thanks for the very good share bro. :D

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Torrecampo vs Pacquiao :D


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Torrecampo vs Pacquiao :D


@ what wait? :?

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+Your welcome bro, m.b. :D

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Links: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=31991 by Jhonny Gonzalez dtd 19 October 2010
http://www.notifight.com/artman2/publis ... _18_12.php
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As it was reported last week by BoxingScene.com/NotiFight.com, three-time wolrd champion Erik "El Terrible" Morales will face the ormer world champion at 130 pounds, Argentine boxer Jorge "Hyena" Barrios on December 18 at Estadio Caliente in Tijuana, Mexico. It's being said the WBC's Silver belt at Jr.welterweight will be at stake with a CATCH-WEIGHT of 138-pounds.

Hiena Barrios ante Erik Morales el 18/12
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Oct 19, 2010 - 6:23:16 PM

link: http://www.notifight.com/artman2/publis ... _18_12.php

El ex tri campeón mundial y uno de los mejores púgiles mexicanos de la historia Erik "El Terrible" Morales, enfrentará en su ciudad natal de Tijuana al ex monarca ecuménico de los súperplumas Jorge Rodrigo "La Hiena" Barrios el próximo sábado 18 de diciembre.

Luego de casi un mes de negociaciones, las cuales comenzaron unos días antes de lo que fue la última presentación de Barrios (1/10 en Corrientes ante Wilson Alcorro), Mario Arano (en representación de "La Hiena") y Erik Morales llegaron a un acuerdo para sostener un muy atractivo combate que podría tener un límite de peso de 138 libras (62,600 kg).

Morales y Barrios tienen ambos 34 años (Erik es exactamente un mes menor que Rodrigo), un record muy parecido y transitan por un momento de carrera clave para saber si continuán en "las grandes ligas" o no. Por eso, esta pelea es clave para los dos.

"El Terrible" nació en Tijuana el 1 de septiembre de 1976 y en su extraordinario palmarés de 50 peleas ganadas (35 ko) y 6 derrotas, se destacan sus títulos mundiales en las divisiones supergallo, pluma y superpluma, además de dos inolvidables sagas de tres enfrentamientos contra Marco Antonio Barrera y Manny Pacquiao.

Luego de su anunciado retiro en 2007, Morales volvió en 2010 con victorias ante el nicaragüense José Alfaro (GPP 10) y contra el escocés Willie Lemond (KOT 6), en peso welter y superligero respectivamente.

Barrios, que nació en Tigre el 1 de agosto de 1976, acredita un no menos estupendo palmarés de 50-4-1 (35 ko).

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PinoyProdigy95 wrote:
Torrecampo vs Pacquiao :D


@ what wait? :?

What many boxing fans do not know is one reason for Manny's loss to Torrecampo is he came into that fight overweight. After working out the excess, Manny still didn't make weight and was penalised by using heavier gloves. The Ring Announcer Ronnie Nath. mentioned this at the start of the fight.

The same thing happened with Manny in his loss to Singsurat. Manny lost the title even before the fight due to overweight.

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die hard!!! wrote:
PinoyProdigy95 wrote:
Torrecampo vs Pacquiao :D


@ what wait? :?

What many boxing fans do not know is one reason for Manny's loss to Torrecampo is he came into that fight overweight. After working out the excess, Manny still didn't make weight and was penalised by using heavier gloves. The Ring Announcer Ronnie Nath. mentioned this at the start of the fight.

The same thing happened with Manny in his loss to Singsurat. Manny lost the title even before the fight due to overweight.


+Thanks for the additional info. very good share bro.

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Another coming "CatchWeight" fight:

AJ 'BAZOOKA' BANAL vs LUIS PEREZ @ 120 lbs maximum weight limit

Q&A: AJ Banal

LINK: http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/qa-aj-b ... more-64363 dtd 25Oct.2010

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World ranked AJ “Bazooka” Banal (22-1, 18 KOs) of the Philippines will face his biggest name to date this Saturday. Banal faces former two-time divisional world champion Luis Perez (26-4, 17 KOs) of Nicaragua. The bout will take place at the Waterfront Cebu City Hotel, in Cebu City, Cebu, Philippines. Ala boxing will promote the show. Fightnews spoke with Banal as he closed out his training camp for his fight with Perez.

Perez, like yourself, is a Southpaw. Is that more comfortable for you or more awkward?

It does not matter. In our gym, I spar with both orthodox and southpaws.

This Fight is Being Fought at a CONTRACT of a 120 lb MAXIMUM Weight Limit. You have never fought on record above 119 where Perez has fought as high as 126. Do you see any advantage for Perez with this weight?

I think it is more of a disadvantage on his side because he has to reduce where as in my case, going up one more pound is no big deal. The WEIGH-IN Weight of 120 lbs is More FAVORABLE for Me while Perez has to LOSE Some Weight to Make 120 lbs. By fight time we will be weighing more or less just the same.

You are generally the aggressor in your fights. Will you have to adjust your style with Perez being a serious puncher in his own right?

I am an adjustable fighter. I adjust depending on the kind of style my opponent is but not at the expense of letting them dictate the tempo. I think I have more power in my fists as shown in my knockout percentage.

Would you say this is without a doubt your toughest fight to date?

On paper, it seems to be because Perez is a two division world champion. However, I have had also tough fights like with current IBF junior bantamweight champion Francisco Alberto Rosas whom I defeated in Las Vegas on May 5, 2007.

You are already highly world ranked. How much closer to a world title fight do you think you will be with a victory over Perez?

It all depends on my manager and promoter. If they say, I fight for the world title tomorrow then I will do so.

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Latest 'CatchWeight' fight tomorrow night 11Dec.2010

to read more, linkS: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33731 by Jake Donovan dtd 10Dec.2010http://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/status/13369901020348416

Off camera, Joan Guzman(30-0-1, 17ko's) returns to the ring for the 1st time since fight w/ Ali Funeka. He will take on JourneyMan Jason Davis(11-7-1) in a tune up for what is hoped to be a crack at Khan sometime in 2011.
The comeback tour IsN'T Off to a very promising start, however. J.Guzman who has a history of struggling at the scales, WEIGHED IN at 144.5 lbs for his 10rd bout w/J.Davis, who came in at 143lbs. Both fighters were OVER the CONTRACTED Limit of 141lbs.


Guzman and Davis agreed to fight at their weight since Both OVER.
about 1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

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Another CatchWeight fight tomorrow night 11Dec.2010

link: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33731 by Jake Donovan dtd 10Dec.2010

Ortiz and Peterson also Both made the CONTRACTED Weight of 141lbs('CatchWeight') for their 12rd Jr.Welterweight bout. V.Ortiz came in the MAXIMUM LIMIT of 141lbs, while L.Peterson was a ripped and ready 139lbs.

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