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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:14 pm 
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No Difference They both steamrolled their opponents maybe both of them are on PEDS


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:46 pm 
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josecasta1 wrote:
against the grain wrote:
josecasta1 wrote:
Mayweather not on PED? Marquez did not refuse the test in this fight? In fact, pacquiao has disclosed all of his test results to the public. Bud, you are living under a rock. When finish hibernation ask Mayweather to disclose his test results.


what rock are YOU under?????????????????

YES, marquez was willing to take any form of testing that team pac would have wanted IF BOTH he and pacquiao would go through the testing........... team pac REFUSED..........

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/4/37 ... oxing-news

btw, drug testing is NOT accomplished by just disclosing it to the public............... where did you get that from??????????

drug testing methods has to be 'spelled' out in the fight contract and administered by the appropriate agency/lab..................

when you are finished hibernating.... do some research and realize that pacquiao REFUSED the drug testing when mayweather wanted OSDT............

btw, marquez and mayweather have PASSED ALL the tests that pac considers the LITMUS test for peds............ the NSAC ped tests........... if that is good enough for pac then ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ, MAYWEATHER and ANYONE else pac fights................


That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude. Roach's said Marquez refused. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/12475/2012-11-29/Roach-Marquez-Rejected-Testing-We%E2%80%99ll-Still-Kick-His-*** So, who are you going to believe now? These won't prove anything, only a naivety will fall for it.

Mayweather and GBP without any evidence accused Pacquiao of using PED. Then USDA/GBP and Mayweather demanded Pacquiao to take the test in thier own terms. So who will allow these people to be all of Pacquiao's accuser, judge and executioner. Maybe just you because of your naivety problem.

So after Pacquiao won the defamation lawsuit against GBP and Mayweather, they recanted their lies against Pacquiao. So, who is your source that Pacquiao is on PED? Having no source to a debate is a cause problem of naivety. That's yours and it's serious.

The "LITMUS TEST" that you were referring to has been blown into pieces by Grabiel Montoya and Thomas Hauser to be a BS litmus test. They reported PED test corruption against GBP/USDA relationship. They also reported that Mayweather failed three of his PED test. GBP/USDA and Mayweather could not responds to these reports. Excerpts of Hauser's article
"The PED Mess:"
http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2012-articles/november/did-floyd-mayweather-fail-multiple-drug-tests-and-other-riddles.html
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/15610-boxing-vs-peds
Are you that naive to want this people be the judge and executioner for Pacquiao? Oh yeah of course you are! That's what we are here for.
I'm really itching to see those PED test results from Mayweather. Why are they still hiding it? "LITMUS, oh LITMUS" such a big word for a naivety.

Just to add... Oh yeah Marquez's biggest fight of his life had to pick a reputable conditioning coach. Who are Heredia's clients? As a conditioning coach what was his reputation? Nothing. And to answer different means naivety. And bud, that is your trouble.


:shock: :shock: :shock:

IGNORANT people are STILL posting the article that you posted to say that marquez refused drug testing................... dumb...........

AGAIN, i posted marquez' response to roach's claim that marquez refused ped testing (read AGAIN)................. again, dumb................
you OBVIOUSLY did NOT look at the chronology of the articles did you????????????????? :? :?
the article you posted was superseded by the article i posted................. and was also superseded by this article:
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/3/37 ... hbo-boxing

using YOUR words: "That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude." LOL.......

roach NEVER brought additional testing up to arum (arum's words).....so it was ONLY UNofficial claims by roach (false claims said to the media ONLY for ingnorants to believe)........... ONLY IGNORANT NAIVE people like you believe that............ you believed that article and thats why you posted it............. LOL...........

roach WITHOUT any evidence was saying marquez did not look "natural" implying peds use.................. IGNORANT people would NOT see that implication................... your ignorance would most likely make you NOT see what roach was implying by saying that..........

bottom line:
up until NOW pac's testing agency has ALWAYS been the peds testing done by the NSAC............. (his litmus test).............
he has ALWAYS REFUSED any additional testing......................

IF NSAC's testing is GOOD ENOUGH FOR PAC, THEN IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ................ unless, pac BOWS down to what mayweather has been saying all along....... and agree to more STRINGENT testing, like OSDT...............

CUT THE CRAP AND KNOW THAT MARQUEZ WAS CLEAN...............just like pac................. based on the NSAC's testing methods (pacquiao's "litmus test")..................
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 0275.story


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:52 pm 
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josecasta1 wrote:
against the grain wrote:
josecasta1 wrote:
Mayweather not on PED? Marquez did not refuse the test in this fight? In fact, pacquiao has disclosed all of his test results to the public. Bud, you are living under a rock. When finish hibernation ask Mayweather to disclose his test results.


what rock are YOU under?????????????????

YES, marquez was willing to take any form of testing that team pac would have wanted IF BOTH he and pacquiao would go through the testing........... team pac REFUSED..........

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/4/37 ... oxing-news

btw, drug testing is NOT accomplished by just disclosing it to the public............... where did you get that from??????????

drug testing methods has to be 'spelled' out in the fight contract and administered by the appropriate agency/lab..................

when you are finished hibernating.... do some research and realize that pacquiao REFUSED the drug testing when mayweather wanted OSDT............

btw, marquez and mayweather have PASSED ALL the tests that pac considers the LITMUS test for peds............ the NSAC ped tests........... if that is good enough for pac then ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ, MAYWEATHER and ANYONE else pac fights................


That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude. Roach's said Marquez refused. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/12475/2012-11-29/Roach-Marquez-Rejected-Testing-We%E2%80%99ll-Still-Kick-His-*** So, who are you going to believe now? These won't prove anything, only a naivety will fall for it.

Mayweather and GBP without any evidence accused Pacquiao of using PED. Then USDA/GBP and Mayweather demanded Pacquiao to take the test in thier own terms. So who will allow these people to be all of Pacquiao's accuser, judge and executioner. Maybe just you because of your naivety problem.

So after Pacquiao won the defamation lawsuit against GBP and Mayweather, they recanted their lies against Pacquiao. So, who is your source that Pacquiao is on PED? Having no source to a debate is a cause problem of naivety. That's yours and it's serious.

The "LITMUS TEST" that you were referring to has been blown into pieces by Grabiel Montoya and Thomas Hauser to be a BS litmus test. They reported PED test corruption against GBP/USDA relationship. They also reported that Mayweather failed three of his PED test. GBP/USDA and Mayweather could not responds to these reports. Excerpts of Hauser's article
"The PED Mess:"
http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2012-articles/november/did-floyd-mayweather-fail-multiple-drug-tests-and-other-riddles.html
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/15610-boxing-vs-peds
Are you that naive to want this people be the judge and executioner for Pacquiao? Oh yeah of course you are! That's what we are here for.
I'm really itching to see those PED test results from Mayweather. Why are they still hiding it? "LITMUS, oh LITMUS" such a big word for a naivety.

Just to add... Oh yeah Marquez's biggest fight of his life had to pick a reputable conditioning coach. Who are Heredia's clients? As a conditioning coach what was his reputation? Nothing. And to answer different means naivety. And bud, that is your trouble.


against the grain wrote:
:shock: :shock: :shock:

IGNORANT people are STILL posting the article that you posted to say that marquez refused drug testing................... dumb...........

AGAIN, i posted marquez' response to roach's claim that marquez refused ped testing (read AGAIN)................. again, dumb................
you OBVIOUSLY did NOT look at the chronology of the articles did you????????????????? :? :?
the article you posted was superseded by the article i posted................. and was also superseded by this article:
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/3/37 ... hbo-boxing

using YOUR words: "That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude." LOL.......

roach NEVER brought additional testing up to arum (arum's words).....so it was ONLY UNofficial claims by roach (false claims said to the media ONLY for ingnorants to believe)........... ONLY IGNORANT NAIVE people like you believe that............ you believed that article and thats why you posted it............. LOL...........

roach WITHOUT any evidence was saying marquez did not look "natural" implying peds use.................. IGNORANT people would NOT see that implication................... your ignorance would most likely make you NOT see what roach was implying by saying that..........

bottom line:
up until NOW pac's testing agency has ALWAYS been the peds testing done by the NSAC............. (his litmus test).............
he has ALWAYS REFUSED any additional testing......................

IF NSAC's testing is GOOD ENOUGH FOR PAC, THEN IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ................ unless, pac BOWS down to what mayweather has been saying all along....... and agree to more STRINGENT testing, like OSDT...............

CUT THE CRAP AND KNOW THAT MARQUEZ WAS CLEAN...............just like pac................. based on the NSAC's testing methods (pacquiao's "litmus test")..................
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 0275.story


It wasn't Pacquiao's litmus test, but Arum's test. Other than the "Arum test," Marquez was willing to take any test but never did any random VADA test. Blame it on Arum, not me, for doubting Marquez is clean. Forget USADA because of not reporting the three Mayweather tests in question to the state Comission (NSAC), but instead dumping them off to the safe hands of the promoter. Blame it on USADA and GBP, not me, for doubting Mayweather was ever clean.
Pacquiao was at his peak when he was in his early thirties and not at 39, like Marquez. He has never attached himself to a PED peddler, like Marquez. No one has reported any positive PED result, like Mayweather, except for the bogus Teddy Atlas email. Where is that f*****ing email?!!!!??? So don't blame me for believing Pacquiao is clean.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:11 pm 
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josecasta1 wrote:
josecasta1 wrote:
against the grain wrote:

what rock are YOU under?????????????????

YES, marquez was willing to take any form of testing that team pac would have wanted IF BOTH he and pacquiao would go through the testing........... team pac REFUSED..........

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/4/37 ... oxing-news

btw, drug testing is NOT accomplished by just disclosing it to the public............... where did you get that from??????????

drug testing methods has to be 'spelled' out in the fight contract and administered by the appropriate agency/lab..................

when you are finished hibernating.... do some research and realize that pacquiao REFUSED the drug testing when mayweather wanted OSDT............

btw, marquez and mayweather have PASSED ALL the tests that pac considers the LITMUS test for peds............ the NSAC ped tests........... if that is good enough for pac then ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ, MAYWEATHER and ANYONE else pac fights................


That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude. Roach's said Marquez refused. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/12475/2012-11-29/Roach-Marquez-Rejected-Testing-We%E2%80%99ll-Still-Kick-His-*** So, who are you going to believe now? These won't prove anything, only a naivety will fall for it.

Mayweather and GBP without any evidence accused Pacquiao of using PED. Then USDA/GBP and Mayweather demanded Pacquiao to take the test in thier own terms. So who will allow these people to be all of Pacquiao's accuser, judge and executioner. Maybe just you because of your naivety problem.

So after Pacquiao won the defamation lawsuit against GBP and Mayweather, they recanted their lies against Pacquiao. So, who is your source that Pacquiao is on PED? Having no source to a debate is a cause problem of naivety. That's yours and it's serious.

The "LITMUS TEST" that you were referring to has been blown into pieces by Grabiel Montoya and Thomas Hauser to be a BS litmus test. They reported PED test corruption against GBP/USDA relationship. They also reported that Mayweather failed three of his PED test. GBP/USDA and Mayweather could not responds to these reports. Excerpts of Hauser's article
"The PED Mess:"
http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2012-articles/november/did-floyd-mayweather-fail-multiple-drug-tests-and-other-riddles.html
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/15610-boxing-vs-peds
Are you that naive to want this people be the judge and executioner for Pacquiao? Oh yeah of course you are! That's what we are here for.
I'm really itching to see those PED test results from Mayweather. Why are they still hiding it? "LITMUS, oh LITMUS" such a big word for a naivety.

Just to add... Oh yeah Marquez's biggest fight of his life had to pick a reputable conditioning coach. Who are Heredia's clients? As a conditioning coach what was his reputation? Nothing. And to answer different means naivety. And bud, that is your trouble.


against the grain wrote:
:shock: :shock: :shock:

IGNORANT people are STILL posting the article that you posted to say that marquez refused drug testing................... dumb...........

AGAIN, i posted marquez' response to roach's claim that marquez refused ped testing (read AGAIN)................. again, dumb................
you OBVIOUSLY did NOT look at the chronology of the articles did you????????????????? :? :?
the article you posted was superseded by the article i posted................. and was also superseded by this article:
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/3/37 ... hbo-boxing

using YOUR words: "That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude." LOL.......

roach NEVER brought additional testing up to arum (arum's words).....so it was ONLY UNofficial claims by roach (false claims said to the media ONLY for ingnorants to believe)........... ONLY IGNORANT NAIVE people like you believe that............ you believed that article and thats why you posted it............. LOL...........

roach WITHOUT any evidence was saying marquez did not look "natural" implying peds use.................. IGNORANT people would NOT see that implication................... your ignorance would most likely make you NOT see what roach was implying by saying that..........

bottom line:
up until NOW pac's testing agency has ALWAYS been the peds testing done by the NSAC............. (his litmus test).............
he has ALWAYS REFUSED any additional testing......................

IF NSAC's testing is GOOD ENOUGH FOR PAC, THEN IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ................ unless, pac BOWS down to what mayweather has been saying all along....... and agree to more STRINGENT testing, like OSDT...............

CUT THE CRAP AND KNOW THAT MARQUEZ WAS CLEAN...............just like pac................. based on the NSAC's testing methods (pacquiao's "litmus test")..................
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 0275.story


It wasn't Pacquiao's litmus test, but Arum's test. Other than the "Arum test," Marquez was willing to take any test but never did any random VADA test. Blame it on Arum, not me, for doubting Marquez is clean. Forget USADA because of not reporting the three Mayweather tests in question to the state Comission (NSAC), but instead dumping them off to the safe hands of the promoter. Blame it on USADA and GBP, not me, for doubting Mayweather was ever clean.
Pacquiao was at his peak when he was in his early thirties and not at 39, like Marquez. He has never attached himself to a PED peddler, like Marquez. No one has reported any positive PED result, like Mayweather, except for the bogus Teddy Atlas email. Where is that f*****ing email?!!!!??? So don't blame me for believing Pacquiao is clean.


yes, it is pacquiao's litmus test............ as long as he ONLY relies on the NSAC drug testing and NOTHING else............ then thats it...... NSAC testing............ PERIOD...........

even if it wasnt "official", marquez was STILL willing to take ADDITIONAL testing IF pac would have done the same thing........... team pac said NO................ whatever roach said in that other article was BULL SH!T.................. dont believe that SH!T.........

regardless that marquez is 39............. he still tested NEGATIVE by the NSAC............... CASE CLOSED............... HE IS CLEAN..............

posters here in this website said pac is innocent (peds free) until proven guilty.................... guess what?????????????
SAME GOES FOR MARQUEZ............. HE IS PEDS FREE UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY...............
AS FAR AS PAC/MARQUEZ 4........... THEY ARE BOTH CLEAN...........PERIOD................

whatever may be found in the future (by either marquez or pac) does NOT affect that marquez and pac BOTH tested NEGATIVE for ped use on fight night on december 8th.................PERIOD..........THE BRUTAL KO OF PAC BY MARQUEZ WILL FOREVER BE FAIR AND SQUARE..........

BTW, MARQUEZ IS NOT AT HIS PRIME RIGHT NOW AT 39............. HE'S FAR FROM HIS PRIME................. YET, HE OVERCAME EVERYTHING TEAM PAC PUT IN PLACE FOR THE FIGHT TO BE IN FAVOR OF PACQUIAO............. SUCH AS WEIGHT LIMIT OF 147, putting many years between fights, ETC...........

if you are calling NSAC testing "arum's test" then tell manny to be his own man, not a damn puppet............. he should be someone that says "i'm taking extra testing to show i'm clean since marquez is willing to do the same............" or something to that effect............ he DOESNT do that............. so it's pacquiao's litmus test..............

AGAIN, bottom line:
regardless of who marquez hires as his s&c coach.............. he was tested NEGATIVE for peds by the NSAC-... just like pac............... they are BOTH CLEAN of peds...................... PERIOD................ CLEAN.................


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