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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:02 am 
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Roach is just waiting for the post fight smoke to settle down then he said he and Manny will have a long and honest talk...man to man. Roach is definitely leaning towards Pac's retirement. The signs were all there already. Magalit na si Manny kung magalit. Roach is like a father to him. He will not hold back. Manny retire, even your family wants it. Enough of the 'para sa bayan ang laban'. You did your share. The Filipinos are grateful. Enough...

That doesn't seem to be what Freddie has in mind:

http://philboxing.com/news/story-145924.html

Star fruit much, Freddie?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:41 am 
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kulukuy wrote:
nonongsanmateo wrote:
Roach is just waiting for the post fight smoke to settle down then he said he and Manny will have a long and honest talk...man to man. Roach is definitely leaning towards Pac's retirement. The signs were all there already. Magalit na si Manny kung magalit. Roach is like a father to him. He will not hold back. Manny retire, even your family wants it. Enough of the 'para sa bayan ang laban'. You did your share. The Filipinos are grateful. Enough...

That doesn't seem to be what Freddie has in mind:

http://philboxing.com/news/story-145924.html

Star fruit much, Freddie?


It is...
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2019/07 ... -mind-anew


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:47 am 
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kulukuy wrote:
He will "Fight On" because he is addicted to the adulation of the Pactards and, of course, the money that comes with it.

Freddie is not big on integrity either because he failed to walk his talk. As we all know, he has made public pronouncements that he and Pac has had an agreement about retirement for a while now. But when Pac dropped him in the Matthysse fight (after he suggested that Pac should retire after the Horn match), he felt left out anyway and was moping about it. Now here he is talking the talk again for the Nth time. What he should have done was to walk his talk by publicly standing his ground and refuse to render his services (coaching and access to the Wild Card Gym) in this fight to emphasize the seriousness of his concern for Pac's health. He too is addicted to the adulation, the limelight and, of course, the fat paychecks.

It goes without saying that the rest of his team, his acolytes and the hangers-on/goupies are also addicted to the limelight and the handouts Pac gives them. They would keep telling Pac that he still got it and that he should continue to "Fight On" cuz they don't want the "high" to end.

The Horn fight gave us a glimpse of him getting old; and Roach was right about it. It didn't show that much during the Matthysse and the Broner fights as they didn't exactly push Pac and were in survival mode.


The Horn fight is highway robbery, There is always another point of view to the story. I believe all you've said are all presumptions of what Freddie thinks and the PACMAN thinks. Unless you are an insider in PACMAN's circle or Freddie's then all you've said are just baseless, again no offence. if the PACMAN chooses to retire it is fair to say it should be on his own terms, whether the motivation is glory, money, or legacy, PACMAN is the captain of his own ship. To also accuse Freddie of "not big on integrity" is a sweeping, baseless accusation on your part, you paint a picture as if you were there.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:57 am 
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nonongsanmateo wrote:
kulukuy wrote:
nonongsanmateo wrote:
Roach is just waiting for the post fight smoke to settle down then he said he and Manny will have a long and honest talk...man to man. Roach is definitely leaning towards Pac's retirement. The signs were all there already. Magalit na si Manny kung magalit. Roach is like a father to him. He will not hold back. Manny retire, even your family wants it. Enough of the 'para sa bayan ang laban'. You did your share. The Filipinos are grateful. Enough...

That doesn't seem to be what Freddie has in mind:

http://philboxing.com/news/story-145924.html

Star fruit much, Freddie?


It is...
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2019/07 ... -mind-anew

Yet another one of his switcheroo position on the subject of Pac's retirement. "Manny, you should retire...Manny, why did you drop me from your Matthysse fight camp...we're not fighting for money...Manny took some punishment and should retire...we're gonna fight the best out their...the winner of Spence vs Porter and maybe Crawford...and so on and so forth.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:17 am 
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kulukuy wrote:
He will "Fight On" because he is addicted to the adulation of the Pactards and, of course, the money that comes with it.

Freddie is not big on integrity either because he failed to walk his talk. As we all know, he has made public pronouncements that he and Pac has had an agreement about retirement for a while now. But when Pac dropped him in the Matthysse fight (after he suggested that Pac should retire after the Horn match), he felt left out anyway and was moping about it. Now here he is talking the talk again for the Nth time. What he should have done was to walk his talk by publicly standing his ground and refuse to render his services (coaching and access to the Wild Card Gym) in this fight to emphasize the seriousness of his concern for Pac's health. He too is addicted to the adulation, the limelight and, of course, the fat paychecks.

It goes without saying that the rest of his team, his acolytes and the hangers-on/goupies are also addicted to the limelight and the handouts Pac gives them. They would keep telling Pac that he still got it and that he should continue to "Fight On" cuz they don't want the "high" to end.

The Horn fight gave us a glimpse of him getting old; and Roach was right about it. It didn't show that much during the Matthysse and the Broner fights as they didn't exactly push Pac and were in survival mode.


The Horn fight is highway robbery, There is always another point of view to the story. I believe all you've said are all presumptions of what Freddie thinks and the PACMAN thinks. Unless you are an insider in PACMAN's circle or Freddie's then all you've said are just baseless, again no offence. if the PACMAN chooses to retire it is fair to say it should be on his own terms, whether the motivation is glory, money, or legacy, PACMAN is the captain of his own ship. To also accuse Freddie of "not big on integrity" is a sweeping, baseless accusation on your part, you paint a picture as if you were there.


Baseless? You obviously haven't been following Freddie's PUBLIC pronouncment about Pac's retirement and his changing position about it which I already alluded to in my post. Don't take my word for it. Do your own research and play catch up.

Highway robbery or not, it's irrelevant. He got old on that fight and Freddie saw it, hence his suggestion to Pac to consider retirement for which, he got fired on the subsequent Matthysse fight camp.

My post was to elaborate on the obvious on why Pac wIll "Fight On" regardless. I think you're getting too fan-boy emotional. I really don't care if Pac fights Canelo, Kovalev, Wilder, etc. and into his 50s; it's no skin off my nose. I'd still watch them cuz they would be good entertainment.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:40 am 
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NO RETIREMENT..AS HE SAID HE WILL NOT RETIRE,HE WILL CONTINUE HIS LEGACY.HE WANTS TO BRING INSPIRATION AMD HAPPINES TO ALL THE FANS. HE SAID MANY TIMES HE STILL GOT PASSION AND NOT LAZY.
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL PACMAN TO RETIRE? EH NAGBIBIGAY NG TULONG SA MGA TAO KAPAG NANALO SYA. PATI BANSA NATIN AY NAKIKILALA S SPORTS NG BOXING.
TAPOS PANAY PANOOD NYO NG LABAN :lol: :lol: :lol: MGA HIPOKRITO :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:12 am 
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You don't have to be fan-boy emotional about it and show your anger with all caps (a forum rule violation). Don't worry. Like I said, Pac will "Fight On" regardless for reasons I've already stated. However, it's a depressing thought that the only thing going for Da Pilipens is Manny Pacquiao. What happens when he finally retires? I guess Miss Universe will take up the mantle. Perhaps, that's the reason why she was there...fanatically waving the flag.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:45 am 
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Pac is not going to retire though.
I say take on Mikey Garcia for one last cash fight.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:08 pm 
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He can take on Errol Spence Jr. upon winning the fight against Porter. Hope this will be his last fight before riding the sunset. Crawford fight is bad business for him. Though difficult Spence fight is winnable.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:11 pm 
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He can take on Errol Spence Jr. upon winning the fight against Porter. Hope this will be his last fight before riding the sunset. Crawford fight is bad business for him. Though difficult Spence fight is winnable.

I hope he avoids that one.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:25 pm 
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he can't live without the adulation from the fans. there's not much pactards left to adore him as a senator. :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:27 pm 
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NO RETIREMENT..AS HE SAID HE WILL NOT RETIRE,HE WILL CONTINUE HIS LEGACY.HE WANTS TO BRING INSPIRATION AMD HAPPINES TO ALL THE FANS. HE SAID MANY TIMES HE STILL GOT PASSION AND NOT LAZY.
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL PACMAN TO RETIRE? EH NAGBIBIGAY NG TULONG SA MGA TAO KAPAG NANALO SYA. PATI BANSA NATIN AY NAKIKILALA S SPORTS NG BOXING.
TAPOS PANAY PANOOD NYO NG LABAN :lol: :lol: :lol: MGA HIPOKRITO :lol:


Hindi naman po sa hipokrito…bilang fans, kabayan at tinatagurian natin siyang bayani at boxing living legend natural lang na magbigay ng suggestion, opinion at advises na ikabubuti sa kanya.. base na rin kasi eto sa nakikita, napapanood at resulta sa huli niyang mga laban…hindi na ganun katibay ang katawan ng ating pambansang kamao kumpara 10 years ago…iba kasi ang bilis na pinapakita niya sa training kumpara sa actual na laban.. at prone na siya ngaun sa injury (particularly sa eye, parehas sa huling dalawang laban niya kay Thurman at broner)…kung gusto pa ng ating pambansang kamao na magsilbi pa ng maayos as public official sa ating bayan Pilipinas ay dapat pag-isipan na niya ngaun ang kanyang health kasi nagkaka-edad na po siya…di natin masasabi ang mangyayari sa loob ng boxing ring kahit gaano kagaling o kaliksi ang isang boxer unpredictable ang mga mangyayari ..sana kung magdesisyon man siya na lumaban ulit ay sana hindi base sa sulsol lang ng nakapaligid sa kanya…kasi di lingid sa lahat na ugali talaga ng ating pambansang kamao na hindi basta “makahindi” sa mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya (inamin na rin yan noon ni buboy at napagtatalunan pa nila yan)…. But anyway, sa huli na kay Manny Pacquiao pa rin ang final say… bilang fan at kabayan ni Manny para saken wala na siyang dapat pang patunayan…nagbigay na siya ng maraming karangalan sa ating bayan at naglagay na siya ng magandang legacy sa boxing world na di basta mapapantayan ng sinumang boxers sa ngaun. peace! :-)


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Post subject: Re: Para sa ating Pambansang Kamao: ”Wala ng dapat patunayanPostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:34 am
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In the news today, Roach wants Pacman to quit boxing Buboy does not. Buboy needs the moolah more than Roach who is already a self made millionaire.

https://sports.inquirer.net/358926/pacq ... g-breaking


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Post subject: Re: Para sa ating Pambansang Kamao: ”Wala ng dapat patunayanPostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:34 am
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In the news today, Roach wants Pacman to quit boxing Buboy does not. Buboy needs the moolah more than Roach who is already a self made millionaire.

https://sports.inquirer.net/358926/pacq ... g-breaking

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:33 pm 
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Pacman needs a lot of money to bankroll his quest for the presidency on 2022.
But what good is it when a president is afflicted with a scrambled brain?


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