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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:19 pm 
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Donaire should have followed pacs style in choosing and avoiding opponents in order to be on top..and become champion in different weight class..
He should have not fought Rigondeaux.. Just like pac, he avoids joan guzman when joan guzman was challenging pacs from superfeatherweight..

joan and rigo's style are both a slick fighter.. both are not that famous..only true boxing fan know these guys..

Nonito should have avoided this rigo guy.. he should have fought another fighter who is fit to his style, he could have cherry picked terrazas, mijares or a rematch with darchinyan..at the same time he will look good and can increase his marketability.

Pac avoids joan guzman simply because it is a high risk with a very low reward fight..instead pac chooses an aging barrera and a rematch with marquez..at the same time pacs marketability increases..


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:01 am 
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you are stating the obvious here, matchmaking is what makes the fighter. Rigo would have schooled Pacquiao at 122 points, no doubt. If you looked at ND's performance, he was completely baffled by Rigo's movements. And we as pinoys think Donaire is much smarter than Pac, and that is true. But even ND is not smart enough for Rigo.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:05 am 
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Funny but Rigo and Arum are with TR.
So, there goes away your strategy.
Donaire could have fought Abner Mares.


Floid ducked the slick Winky Wright and powerful Vernon Forrest.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:08 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
Funny but Rigo and Arum are with TR.
So, there goes away your strategy.
Donaire could have fought Abner Mares.


Floid ducked the slick Winky Wright and powerful Vernon Forrest.


it was poor strategy on the part of Arum to match Donaire with Rigo, thats the whole point. He knew Rigo would win. In fact Arum mentioned this when Donaire briefly bolted from Top Rank for GB...Arum said Donaire would not beat Rigo back then.

guess he was right. Arum took a gamble and he lost.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:51 am 
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wahhahaha... funny thing is... before : I won't fight rigo, coz he doesn't excite me then: he excites me now, lets get it on after the bout : donaire nga-nga ...... :mrgreen: :lol:

after several years, guzman was a bum after all... :mrgreen:


ano ulet yung argument mo TS? :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:59 am 
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jogar84 wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
Funny but Rigo and Arum are with TR.
So, there goes away your strategy.
Donaire could have fought Abner Mares.


Floid ducked the slick Winky Wright and powerful Vernon Forrest.


it was poor strategy on the part of Arum to match Donaire with Rigo, thats the whole point. He knew Rigo would win. In fact Arum mentioned this when Donaire briefly bolted from Top Rank for GB...Arum said Donaire would not beat Rigo back then.

guess he was right. Arum took a gamble and he lost.



Maybe Arum did not take a gamble, he fed him to the wolves, because he still hates Donaire and Rachael for bolting Top Rank. He always believes that Rigo's style is the antithesis of Donaire. Be that as it may, Donaire had a good chance of winning but he failed miserably by not studying the tapes of Rigo's fights, and accepting the fight when he knew that he had a bad shoulder and even while he is distracted by the pregnancy of his wife. But most of all he was not being smart by insisting to train by himself without the watchful eye of his trainer considering that he is an elite fighter fighting at elite level. He follows the footsteps of Pacquiao even in defeat.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:46 am 
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Guzman would've made Pac look bad. His downfall was due to poor management of his career and body. I'm glad Nonito and Rigo fought because that leaves us no questions in the future about who Nonito missed unlike Pacquiao and Floyd. Now we know Rigo is the better fighter for now and that's that.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:58 am 
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Lifer wrote:
Guzman would've made Pac look bad. His downfall was due to poor management of his career and body. I'm glad Nonito and Rigo fought because that leaves us no questions in the future about who Nonito missed unlike Pacquiao and Floyd. Now we know Rigo is the better fighter for now and that's that.



nonito won't fight mares..that's for sure.. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:05 am 
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it was poor strategy on the part of Arum to match Donaire with Rigo, thats the whole point. He knew Rigo would win. In fact Arum mentioned this when Donaire briefly bolted from Top Rank for GB...Arum said Donaire would not beat Rigo back then.

guess he was right. Arum took a gamble and he lost.

Err, the title says DONAIRE wrong strategy though.
Not Arum.
Did Donaire feel he was going to beat Rigo ? Sure, he did.
Did he feel like fighting Mares already ? You tell me.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:06 am 
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Lifer wrote:
Guzman would've made Pac look bad. His downfall was due to poor management of his career and body. I'm glad Nonito and Rigo fought because that leaves us no questions in the future about who Nonito missed unlike Pacquiao and Floyd. Now we know Rigo is the better fighter for now and that's that.

His downfall was poor discipline.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:09 am 
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pranzer wrote:
jogar84 wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
Funny but Rigo and Arum are with TR.
So, there goes away your strategy.
Donaire could have fought Abner Mares.


Floid ducked the slick Winky Wright and powerful Vernon Forrest.


it was poor strategy on the part of Arum to match Donaire with Rigo, thats the whole point. He knew Rigo would win. In fact Arum mentioned this when Donaire briefly bolted from Top Rank for GB...Arum said Donaire would not beat Rigo back then.

guess he was right. Arum took a gamble and he lost.



Maybe Arum did not take a gamble, he fed him to the wolves, because he still hates Donaire and Rachael for bolting Top Rank. He always believes that Rigo's style is the antithesis of Donaire. Be that as it may, Donaire had a good chance of winning but he failed miserably by not studying the tapes of Rigo's fights, and accepting the fight when he knew that he had a bad shoulder and even while he is distracted by the pregnancy of his wife. But most of all he was not being smart by insisting to train by himself without the watchful eye of his trainer considering that he is an elite fighter fighting at elite level. He follows the footsteps of Pacquiao even in defeat.


Nonits was overconfident and he ultimately paid the price for it for being unprepared for Rigo's speed. I honestly hope that the rematch would be held at 126 lbs and be staged by late 2014 to 2015 because if they fight immediately chances are Nonits won't improve that much and we would see the same result as last time.

Regarding matchmaking, i think it was due to Nonits insistence to stay at 122 lbs. rather than go up to 126 lbs. To cut the story short, Nonits ran out of TR signed opponents in the super-bantam division that HBO is willing to buy.

Just my 2 cents :D

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:12 am 
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rustycooley66 wrote:
Lifer wrote:
Guzman would've made Pac look bad. His downfall was due to poor management of his career and body. I'm glad Nonito and Rigo fought because that leaves us no questions in the future about who Nonito missed unlike Pacquiao and Floyd. Now we know Rigo is the better fighter for now and that's that.



nonito won't fight mares..that's for sure.. :mrgreen:


sayang naman to kung ganon...eto yung dream match dati sa 122lbs division :(

[Trans: Such a shame if the fight doesn't get made :( ]

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:59 am 
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Nonito has the footwork of a carabao. He cannot defeat any opponent with fast footwork such as Rigondeaux.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:12 pm 
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pranzer wrote:



Maybe Arum did not take a gamble, he fed him to the wolves, because he still hates Donaire and Rachael for bolting Top Rank. He always believes that Rigo's style is the antithesis of Donaire. Be that as it may, Donaire had a good chance of winning but he failed miserably by not studying the tapes of Rigo's fights, and accepting the fight when he knew that he had a bad shoulder and even while he is distracted by the pregnancy of his wife. But most of all he was not being smart by insisting to train by himself without the watchful eye of his trainer considering that he is an elite fighter fighting at elite level. He follows the footsteps of Pacquiao even in defeat.[/quote]

Not a single excuses of Dayunyor you missed to buy. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:44 pm 
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At least Nonito choose to fight rather than duck Rigo...

If he loss he loss no big deal. The thing there now is what he learned from this experience and rise again... :)

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