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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:05 am 
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Well you can't have a perfect record all the time. Even Pacquiao lost a couple of times early in his career and once again to Morales. The true heart of a champion is seen in how one would bounce back from defeat.


Morales is a hall of famer and Concepcion is not. And Pac lose but not the way AJ did today!


Did you not see Pacquiao's loss to Rustico Torrecampo? How about Pacquiao's loss to Medgoen Singsurat?

Answer this please. How old is AJ Banal?


The knockout loss to Torrecampo was a 100% lucky punch the same way when Lennox Lewis lost to Rahman, if only an immediate rematch was made with Torrecampo, Pac will knock this guy out for good! I cannot say the same with AJ if ever they will have rematch with Concepcion immedately. FYI, Pac already lost in the weighing scales in that fight with that Thai fighter. Singsurat is aware that Pac is dehydrated in making the weight so he goes to target the body! Again if they had an immediate rematch, PAC will KOed that Thai for sure but it did't happen because Malcolm Tunacao did the honor in Knocking out this Thai. While Pac realizing he has outgrown hi weight class moved up in weight start demolishing fighters one by one.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:07 am 
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Even Madam Auring and Nostradamus has their own wrong predictions! Give the guy a break... 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:20 am 
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Pacwan wrote:
atemo wrote:
Morales is a hall of famer and Concepcion is not. And Pac lose but not the way AJ did today!


Do more research before making stupid statements you Pacman bandwagoner.
I bet you just started to watch boxing when Manny rose to fame.
Pac did lose to a tricycle driver early in his career and got KO'd with a body punch
in Thailand. If you were watching boxing at that time, maybe you're one of those
cursing Manny, calling him names like Manny "d' bum" Pacquiao or calling him
to retire in boxing. You're just a lowly bayaghugger.
8)


When Manny lost to Torrecampo, everbody knew that Pac lost is due to a lucky punch, did AJ lose by a lucky punch? He was Koed by that Thai fighter not because he is more superior fighter than Pacman but he just knew that Pac already lost the fight in the weighing scales due to difficulty in making weight and is very weak and dehydrated during fight time. Again, is this same situation here applies to Banal's loss today?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:24 am 
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those who keep on hyping, defending and whitewashing ala's fighters should just stop.........................

just keep your fingers & mouths shut. at least until the 3rd defense of a world title belt by an ala fighter, at this point you can start hyping & nut hugging your fighter.

hyping fighters even without any world title belt around their waists is just a tremendous pressure on naive & really inexperienced fighter.

boom, z, and aj don't have the maturity to handle such pressure.

slow down on the hype............. it kills the fighter even before he fights. wait for the right moment, wait until your fighter is a world champion...............................

hype is a complete reverse of UNEXPECTED. nobody expected pacman to win against lebwada. nobody expected pacman to win against barrera.

almost everybody expected believed that aj will win. aj's nuthuggers has been blinded by their own hype. STOP THIS HYPE.
LEARN TO PRAY AND BE HUMBLE. follow the ways of pacman - pacman says "PRAY AND TRUST GOD". pacman trains hard but he prays harder...............

also, pacman is not afraid to change his trainer, manager & promoter. pacman rules himself.......................

i must be a huge pachugger but i simply believe that pacman is the only pinoy fighter who rules himself, conquers himself, defies all expectations and does what he wants (not what others want him to do). pacman never needed the hype......................


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:31 am 
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I'M-D'MAN wrote:
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overconfidence....dapat pinayuhan nila si AJ to fight it at a distance, sayang. Di naman ganong kagalingan si Concepcion



kung nde ganong kagalingan si concepcion, then this only means that nde rin ganon kagaling si banal. another overhyped pinoy boxer.


mas magaling si banal dun sa concepcion na un. di lng na isahan, naramihan lang talaga sa dirty tactics ng kalaban niya + the help of the clearly biased referee.

and don't anyone of you blame him for not getting up on the 10th round because kahit sino sa inyo di niyo kakayanin magpa bugbog sa mga bilbil niyong tiyan at tagiliran kahit isang suntok lng sa boxer.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:40 am 
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atemo wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
atemo wrote:
Morales is a hall of famer and Concepcion is not. And Pac lose but not the way AJ did today!


Did you not see Pacquiao's loss to Rustico Torrecampo? How about Pacquiao's loss to Medgoen Singsurat?

Answer this please. How old is AJ Banal?


The knockout loss to Torrecampo was a 100% lucky punch the same way when Lennox Lewis lost to Rahman, if only an immediate rematch was made with Torrecampo, Pac will knock this guy out for good! I cannot say the same with AJ if ever they will have rematch with Concepcion immedately. FYI, Pac already lost in the weighing scales in that fight with that Thai fighter. Singsurat is aware that Pac is dehydrated in making the weight so he goes to target the body! Again if they had an immediate rematch, PAC will KOed that Thai for sure but it did't happen because Malcolm Tunacao did the honor in Knocking out this Thai. While Pac realizing he has outgrown hi weight class moved up in weight start demolishing fighters one by one.


Okay, why not keep it simple. What are you saying exactly?

- That AJ is not as good as Pac right now? That's an easy one. We can all probably agree with that.

- That AJ will never be as good as Pac? How to argue with that as well. I mean, we are talking about Manny Pacquiao, one of those once in in every 50 years (give or take another 50 years perhaps) kind of fighters.

- Let's scale it down a bit. Are you saying that since AJ lost in this fashion, that he can never be successful in the future. That he can never be a champion?

What exactly are you saying


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:04 am 
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BCngSPC wrote:
We can't be too harsh on Banal. Up to the point he got KOed, the score was close. I personally had him up 5 rounds to 4. He hurt Conception more than a couple of times. He got hit with a punch he couldn't take. It's not like it was mismatch. He gave it a decent shot. He lost. That's it.



...he gave up...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:30 pm 
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what's wrong with prediction? anyway, it is only a prediction.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:44 pm 
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Before the fight most people expected Banal will WIN, but after the fight result...they cannot accept it, full of frustration and blaming someone else e.g. banal, trainer, ALA, etc.. etc... :shock:

Banal is still young, and still not over yet for him....


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:49 pm 
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Hey let's be a GOOD sport! you win some ,you lose some. And it's not how you win the game but how you play the game. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:52 pm 
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atemo wrote:
tenshio wrote:
Well you can't have a perfect record all the time. Even Pacquiao lost a couple of times early in his career and once again to Morales. The true heart of a champion is seen in how one would bounce back from defeat.


Morales is a hall of famer and Concepcion is not. And Pac lose but not the way AJ did today!


Pac lost to Rustico Torrecampo and Singsurat by KO in the 3rd round. Those losses are even worse.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:54 pm 
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Let's move on and allow Banal to pick up the pieces from this loss. I'm sure he'll come back w/ vengeance and learn from this humbling experience.

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