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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:05 pm 
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ncmknight wrote:
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The problem is he was told that he is ready enough for a big fight despite the fact that he should fight another tune-up fight before he can fight for a world title... this is a biggest mistake by ALA management.. they rushed AJ....


Not necessarily. You say he was rushed, yet so many other posters say he's been fed a steady diet of 'bums'. It's always one or the other.

I think Rafael Concepcion was in the right vicinity of competition for AJ. Though he lost, I (as well as so many others in here) think he could've (should've) won it. A few adjustments here in there and he could be an interim world champion now.

Concepcion wasn't a softy (obviously), but he wasn't a dominant world-traveled veteran either (as seen in his pre-fight record of 10-2-1).

AJ lost. No need to complicate it by reading too much into what the trainers did or did not do I suppose.



I don't think AJ has been fed bums.

I honestly think there's a great difference between a Pinoy fighter and a Latino fighter. What could be a world champion prospect for us could be an average fighter for them. Concepcion was brought to be a competitive opponent but expected to fold under AJ's punches.


So what's your message then? That Filipino boxers suck, or just ALA boxers?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:10 pm 
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It doesn't matter how good your coaches are I don't think they can teach an athlete to have "heart".

AJ was tested last Saturday not his skill but his heart or willingness to win, and he failed.

Just my thoughts. 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:15 pm 
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at least boomboom lost to a champ and he was not in his home court

ang masakit kay aj, he lost to an inexprienced fighter (lesser fights than him), someone who has a unimpressive record, and he was playing in front of his countrymen.

that's tough for a young boxer...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:39 pm 
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bust_em_all wrote:
at least boomboom lost to a champ and he was not in his home court

ang masakit kay aj, he lost to an inexprienced fighter (lesser fights than him), someone who has a unimpressive record, and he was playing in front of his countrymen.

that's tough for a young boxer...


ang masakit kay boom2, sa FIRST ROUND tulog.
and napanood ng buong mundo.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:44 pm 
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englishbritish wrote:
bust_em_all wrote:
at least boomboom lost to a champ and he was not in his home court

ang masakit kay aj, he lost to an inexprienced fighter (lesser fights than him), someone who has a unimpressive record, and he was playing in front of his countrymen.

that's tough for a young boxer...


ang masakit kay boom2, sa FIRST ROUND tulog.
and napanood ng buong mundo.


lumabas din ang tunay na color ng pagkatao mo.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:50 pm 
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That's because there is no need to compare whose loss was worse?
In their loss, there is no "at least..."

The good thing is if they take it positively, they will come back stronger than ever.

Kaya nila yan.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:02 pm 
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Let me donate my WORLD CLASS "success" formula :


Education = student + teacher + institution (system of education)

Entertainment = performer + trainor + studio / company

Sports / Boxing = athlete / boxer + coach / trainor + system (training, techniques, tactics...)


In international Football and Basketball when the teams underperform the coaches are fired.


. . . Science . . . Money . . . Talents . . . plus a bit of lack but no room for superstition !

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:09 pm 
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englishbritish wrote:
bust_em_all wrote:
at least boomboom lost to a champ and he was not in his home court

ang masakit kay aj, he lost to an inexprienced fighter (lesser fights than him), someone who has a unimpressive record, and he was playing in front of his countrymen.

that's tough for a young boxer...


ang masakit kay boom2, sa FIRST ROUND tulog.
and napanood ng buong mundo.


Both were exposed in their championship fights.

Both were hyped as the second coming of Manny Pacquiao and both were exposed. LOL!

One his chin, the other his heart.

Which one is more undesirable, Chin or heart?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:25 pm 
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I've still have high hopes that Banal, Boom2x, Gorres and all others pinoy boxers who suffered defeats will comeback and prove all their critics wrong. Kailangan lang ng determinasyon at mausay na trayning...

Why I still want to believe?

Manny suffered a devastating KO loss to Torrecampo but still manage to win titles, so as Gerry who loss also to Duran before winning his first championship belt. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:57 am 
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I tell you guys, the boxers of ALA gym can never reach their goal if their present trainors will be the ones training them for the rest of their careers....Time for a cool change brothers.......

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:01 am 
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I tell you guys, the boxers of ALA gym can never reach their goal if their present trainors will be the ones training them for the rest of their careers....Time for a cool change brothers.......


Change the owner?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:07 am 
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COACHES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ATHLETES. THEY ARE THE BLUE PRINT THAT GUIDE THE ATHLETES. AEV LOST TO A WORLD CLASS COACH OF CONCEPCION.


Tssk tsssk... I knew from the very begining, AJ was just a hyped boxer just like the rest.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:12 am 
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Billabong wrote:
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COACHES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ATHLETES. THEY ARE THE BLUE PRINT THAT GUIDE THE ATHLETES. AEV LOST TO A WORLD CLASS COACH OF CONCEPCION.


Tssk tsssk... I knew from the very begining, AJ was just a hyped boxer just like the rest.


Just curious, how did you know that AJ is overrated?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:17 am 
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I tell you guys, the boxers of ALA gym can never reach their goal if their present trainors will be the ones training them for the rest of their careers....Time for a cool change brothers.......


Change the owner?



Yeah change the owner also....The owner is the one hiring those incompetent trainors......

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:21 am 
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Manny has 2 ko losses early in his career and his style was not something to be desired. He was no stranger to the canvas. Now he's been up against the absolute best and never went down once. Can a fighter actually improve on his chin? This seems to be the weakness of the ALA boys for some reason. Mayol and Boom2x (chin), Gorres and Banal (stamina). Is it the nutrition? They're never getting out of the contender status unless they improve on conditioning.


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