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Author:  Numero uno [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:20 pm ]
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I ASK YOU'SE? iF VLLAMOR WEN'T BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. aND FIND OUT WHAT WEN'T WRONG. THEN WHAT WEN'T WRONG?

First of, Concep is hugely understimated here.. No one knows a thing about him. He is a battler and AJ couldn't put him away.That's what happened in there. Aj broke apart. He fought a guy that was tough. Very tough.

Training: 2 months is a long time. big world load for the kid. ALA find out what's the best prep time. ANd how hard, is good. For the boxer. Style all the same. One-twos that it bounce-bounce one-two.

Just move without bouncing like Pac.

Author:  Teebob [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:31 pm ]
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I think its the conditioning.

Author:  sicfly [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:37 pm ]
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Overcooked in training precisely

Author:  kiddynamitekwiki [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:41 pm ]
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Teebob wrote:
I think its the conditioning.

I agree. Not only that the game plan doesn't have a plan B.

Author:  Ed Sa [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:42 pm ]
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Stupidity on the part of Team Banal.

Author:  GTLambor [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:46 pm ]
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Numero uno wrote:
I ASK YOU'SE? iF VLLAMOR WEN'T BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. aND FIND OUT WHAT WEN'T WRONG. THEN WHAT WEN'T WRONG?

First of, Concep is hugely understimated here.. No one knows a thing about him. He is a battler and AJ couldn't put him away.That's what happened in there. Aj broke apart. He fought a guy that was tough. Very tough.


Yes, i think this is part of it

Author:  EYB [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:50 pm ]
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there is a common denominator why the stable failed to capture a milestone events for their boxers.
i think they need to address this.. focus on conditioning.

sayang yung effort. we have internet, mobile phones, they can earn more.

yung blow by blow noon, ni walang commercial kung kelan at sino ang mag lalaban. ngayon 2 channels pa, merong internet pa.

and this ABS-CBN will take the opportunity of the emotional kid in AJ. They will ask AJ, "ano ang nararamdaman mo ngayon?"

Go back AJ!

Author:  Silverbullet [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:53 pm ]
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It seems that Banal like Boom Boom are NOT tough, rugged fighters. They always start out with guns blazing full of confidence looking for the KO style but when the opponent get tough and takes the shots, Banal and Boom Boom break down. They get confused and then break down. In the case of Boom Boom, he gets TKOed, in the case of AJ he quits.

Author:  Kuya Jerms [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:04 pm ]
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sicfly wrote:
Overcooked in training precisely


AJ's opponent trained more than 2 months with around 300 sparring rounds.

Had AJ won, this "Overcooked" comment will not apply to AJ but to his opponent.

Just goes to show that we only praise the winners and condemn the lossers.

Author:  Kuya Jerms [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:11 pm ]
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Silverbullet wrote:
It seems that Banal like Boom Boom are NOT tough, rugged fighters. They always start out with guns blazing full of confidence looking for the KO style but when the opponent get tough and takes the shots, Banal and Boom Boom break down. They get confused and then break down. In the case of Boom Boom, he gets TKOed, in the case of AJ he quits.


I wonder how we will react when our own "CONCEPCION" will suffer a similar fate (which I hope he won't...I'm also a fan).

After what he did in Wild Card leading to his recent fight, he was lucky he got the win. Else, he will also be a recipient of derogatory comments.

Author:  cardini [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:44 pm ]
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Banal was hospitalized and was found out to be low on electrolytes. A clear sign of dehydration and lack of proper nutrition.

Its the trainer's fault. if that is the case.

Author:  monkeybiz [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:10 pm ]
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cardini wrote:
Banal was hospitalized and was found out to be low on electrolytes. A clear sign of dehydration and lack of proper nutrition.

Its the trainer's fault. if that is the case.


he should have the motolite like the Pacman....they should give better excuse than that.. i don't believe any boxer is 100% conditioned when they stepped inside the ring ...its how a boxer overcome the fight condition that they're in ...it's what separates the bum and a good boxer.

Author:  no.1fan [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:37 pm ]
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What went wrong?
First, I would say the strategy of his opponent is unexpected. AJ and his team did not expect Concepcion to fight dirty. Yes he fought dirty. He clenched and hold AJ's arm's and pummel his side. A good strategy since the referee is dumb. He also uses his head to burrow into AJ.
2nd, Frustration. AJ expected that the referee would do someting about the dirty tactics of his opponents yet he got none. He would sometimes look at the ref to see if Caiz would make some warnings against Concepcion and none came. AJ lost his focus because he was frustrated. If your frustrated you lose your strength very quickly. At one time after the Referee break the 2 AJ was not even on guard. his back was facing Concepcion. Why? No more concentration by AJ and he is weakened by the body blows.

This is the truth of the matter.

Author:  englishbritish [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:00 pm ]
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monkeybiz wrote:
cardini wrote:
Banal was hospitalized and was found out to be low on electrolytes. A clear sign of dehydration and lack of proper nutrition.

Its the trainer's fault. if that is the case.


he should have the motolite like the Pacman....they should give better excuse than that.. i don't believe any boxer is 100% conditioned when they stepped inside the ring ...its how a boxer overcome the fight condition that they're in ...it's what separates the bum and a good boxer.


you quoted on lack of electrolytes, dehydration and lack of proper nutrition. By doing so, you retort his statements with yours.
so based on your statements not agreeing with cardini, so if Pacman lacks electrolytes and proper nutrition,and is dehydrated then Pacman is a bum and not a good boxer.

Author:  xianli [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:05 pm ]
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Ed Sa wrote:
Stupidity on the part of Team Banal.


agree..

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