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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:11 pm 
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at first nung nangyari sa kanya kay concepcion naaawa ako kasi mahirap talaga buhay ng mga boxers, they risk their lives just to make a living.

BUT looking not only at the situation using not only emotions but also using our brains/logic etc etc:

Here's what happened at Banal vs Concepcion:
Banal was winning all rounds or maybe almost all rounds, puro power punches tinapon niya but he wasn't able to KO the durable Concepcion. As early as round 5 he already showed signs of being tired. He starts to breathe using his mouth, gasping for air. Kasi hindi tinuro sa kanya how to pace himself, he didn't pace himself - doesn't know how to conserve strength. When Concepcion was able to weather the storm and saw na wala ng laman ang mga suntok ni Banal, that was the opportunity he was waiting for then came that fateful Round 10 KO.
Now, here's where i can see the reality that Banal quitted. The referee was counting Banal who was on one knee, then di siya tumayo for the whole 10 count. BUT after the 10 count he immediately stood up. Eh may lakas pa pala tumayo, why not do it on the 9th,8th second etc? That means UMAYAW na siya, simply because NAPAGOD siya sa kakatapon ng mga malalakas na suntok which by the way spends so much strength sa kagustohang patulugin ang kalabang di maipatulog. Alam niya na 2 rounds na lang sana panalo na siya, pero nakita niya he won't be able to finish 2 rounds as he doesn't have the power anymore to keep Concepcion at bay, since Concepcion has turned the tide as he is now the aggressor.

Banal vs Perez:
Same situation all throughout rounds 1 to 7. Nakita niya lang napa-atras si Perez sa isang magandang suntok sa round 4, nag machine gun mode kaagad. Nag aksaya ng lakas eh halos lahat ng mga suntok na mga yun eh hindi pumasok. Hindi muna tiningnan if na stun lang or groggy talaga. Saka mo lang naman aatakehin ng ganun yun if groggy ang kalaban. After those punches parang walang nangyari kay Perez, meaning the punch na nagpaatras sa kanya didn't make him groggy but just enough to stun him and move backwards.
Then on to round 7, dahil basang-basa kaliwa niya since round 1 pa palaging nayuyukoan ni perez. Then on round 7 instead of just ducking banal's left, dinagdagan niya with a counter left of his own. Yun na yung suntok na nagsimula ng lahat. As we can see, hilong-hilo si Banal at matagal naka-recover. Then mali rin kasi ni Perez, kita niya he already had the opportunity to win an upset di niya na sana ginawa yung illegal punch. Alam natin at ni Banal na if natuloy yung laban, KO ang katapusan. Nag acting siya,he made sure na di matutuloy ang laban. If nakita niyo yung video sa youtube, the ones nearest to him at that time were perez' corner. Nagrereklamo sila kasi alam nilang nag-aacting lang si Banal, napatawa pa nga yung isa nung naging OA na ginawa ni Banal eh. In essence he quit again!

Banal
vs Concepcion = Was winning the fight,naubusan ng hangin,na KND,binilangan ng referee,hindi tumayo, TALO,immediately after the count tumayo.

vs Perez = Was winning the fight, naubusan ng hangin, tinamaan ng malakas na suntok,held on for dear life,illegal punch,di na tumayo to make sure di siya MATATALO.

vs Concepcion he quit to make sure di siya matalo by KO na tipong di na kailangang bilangan. mas ginusto niya matalo by KO pa rin pero yung siya ang bumigay at di yung wala na siyang magawa kasi di na siya makatayo.

vs Perez he quit to ensure his win because he knows if he allows himself to continue the fight, mapupunta yan sa situation where he was already in and that is a Concepcion situation = KO because i quit by not standing up during the count or KO na napatulog ako.

Pride is the cause of his being a quitter, what he's trying to say is i'll be defeated by my own terms and not because someone forced it on me.

Last but not the least, with all honesty walang kinalaman ang LACK OF POTASSIUM DYAN. Malaking kinalaman dyan ang HINDI 100% CONCENTRATION SA TRAINING, KASI NAHAHATI SA PAG-FAFACEBOOK ETC ETC

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:42 pm 
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radeon wrote:
at first nung nangyari sa kanya kay concepcion naaawa ako kasi mahirap talaga buhay ng mga boxers, they risk their lives just to make a living.

BUT looking not only at the situation using not only emotions but also using our brains/logic etc etc:

Here's what happened at Banal vs Concepcion:
Banal was winning all rounds or maybe almost all rounds, puro power punches tinapon niya but he wasn't able to KO the durable Concepcion. As early as round 5 he already showed signs of being tired. He starts to breathe using his mouth, gasping for air. Kasi hindi tinuro sa kanya how to pace himself, he didn't pace himself - doesn't know how to conserve strength. When Concepcion was able to weather the storm and saw na wala ng laman ang mga suntok ni Banal, that was the opportunity he was waiting for then came that fateful Round 10 KO.
Now, here's where i can see the reality that Banal quitted. The referee was counting Banal who was on one knee, then di siya tumayo for the whole 10 count. BUT after the 10 count he immediately stood up. Eh may lakas pa pala tumayo, why not do it on the 9th,8th second etc? That means UMAYAW na siya, simply because NAPAGOD siya sa kakatapon ng mga malalakas na suntok which by the way spends so much strength sa kagustohang patulugin ang kalabang di maipatulog. Alam niya na 2 rounds na lang sana panalo na siya, pero nakita niya he won't be able to finish 2 rounds as he doesn't have the power anymore to keep Concepcion at bay, since Concepcion has turned the tide as he is now the aggressor.

Banal vs Perez:
Same situation all throughout rounds 1 to 7. Nakita niya lang napa-atras si Perez sa isang magandang suntok sa round 4, nag machine gun mode kaagad. Nag aksaya ng lakas eh halos lahat ng mga suntok na mga yun eh hindi pumasok. Hindi muna tiningnan if na stun lang or groggy talaga. Saka mo lang naman aatakehin ng ganun yun if groggy ang kalaban. After those punches parang walang nangyari kay Perez, meaning the punch na nagpaatras sa kanya didn't make him groggy but just enough to stun him and move backwards.
Then on to round 7, dahil basang-basa kaliwa niya since round 1 pa palaging nayuyukoan ni perez. Then on round 7 instead of just ducking banal's left, dinagdagan niya with a counter left of his own. Yun na yung suntok na nagsimula ng lahat. As we can see, hilong-hilo si Banal at matagal naka-recover. Then mali rin kasi ni Perez, kita niya he already had the opportunity to win an upset di niya na sana ginawa yung illegal punch. Alam natin at ni Banal na if natuloy yung laban, KO ang katapusan. Nag acting siya,he made sure na di matutuloy ang laban. If nakita niyo yung video sa youtube, the ones nearest to him at that time were perez' corner. Nagrereklamo sila kasi alam nilang nag-aacting lang si Banal, napatawa pa nga yung isa nung naging OA na ginawa ni Banal eh. In essence he quit again!

Banal
vs Concepcion = Was winning the fight,naubusan ng hangin,na KND,binilangan ng referee,hindi tumayo, TALO,immediately after the count tumayo.

vs Perez = Was winning the fight, naubusan ng hangin, tinamaan ng malakas na suntok,held on for dear life,illegal punch,di na tumayo to make sure di siya MATATALO.

vs Concepcion he quit to make sure di siya matalo by KO na tipong di na kailangang bilangan. mas ginusto niya matalo by KO pa rin pero yung siya ang bumigay at di yung wala na siyang magawa kasi di na siya makatayo.

vs Perez he quit to ensure his win because he knows if he allows himself to continue the fight, mapupunta yan sa situation where he was already in and that is a Concepcion situation = KO because i quit by not standing up during the count or KO na napatulog ako.

Pride is the cause of his being a quitter, what he's trying to say is i'll be defeated by my own terms and not because someone forced it on me.

Last but not the least, with all honesty walang kinalaman ang LACK OF POTASSIUM DYAN. Malaking kinalaman dyan ang HINDI 100% CONCENTRATION SA TRAINING, KASI NAHAHATI SA PAG-FAFACEBOOK ETC ETC

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: PESBUK KASI NG PESBUK E! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:44 pm 
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lorens_pacman wrote:
radeon wrote:
at first nung nangyari sa kanya kay concepcion naaawa ako kasi mahirap talaga buhay ng mga boxers, they risk their lives just to make a living.

BUT looking not only at the situation using not only emotions but also using our brains/logic etc etc:

Here's what happened at Banal vs Concepcion:
Banal was winning all rounds or maybe almost all rounds, puro power punches tinapon niya but he wasn't able to KO the durable Concepcion. As early as round 5 he already showed signs of being tired. He starts to breathe using his mouth, gasping for air. Kasi hindi tinuro sa kanya how to pace himself, he didn't pace himself - doesn't know how to conserve strength. When Concepcion was able to weather the storm and saw na wala ng laman ang mga suntok ni Banal, that was the opportunity he was waiting for then came that fateful Round 10 KO.
Now, here's where i can see the reality that Banal quitted. The referee was counting Banal who was on one knee, then di siya tumayo for the whole 10 count. BUT after the 10 count he immediately stood up. Eh may lakas pa pala tumayo, why not do it on the 9th,8th second etc? That means UMAYAW na siya, simply because NAPAGOD siya sa kakatapon ng mga malalakas na suntok which by the way spends so much strength sa kagustohang patulugin ang kalabang di maipatulog. Alam niya na 2 rounds na lang sana panalo na siya, pero nakita niya he won't be able to finish 2 rounds as he doesn't have the power anymore to keep Concepcion at bay, since Concepcion has turned the tide as he is now the aggressor.

Banal vs Perez:
Same situation all throughout rounds 1 to 7. Nakita niya lang napa-atras si Perez sa isang magandang suntok sa round 4, nag machine gun mode kaagad. Nag aksaya ng lakas eh halos lahat ng mga suntok na mga yun eh hindi pumasok. Hindi muna tiningnan if na stun lang or groggy talaga. Saka mo lang naman aatakehin ng ganun yun if groggy ang kalaban. After those punches parang walang nangyari kay Perez, meaning the punch na nagpaatras sa kanya didn't make him groggy but just enough to stun him and move backwards.
Then on to round 7, dahil basang-basa kaliwa niya since round 1 pa palaging nayuyukoan ni perez. Then on round 7 instead of just ducking banal's left, dinagdagan niya with a counter left of his own. Yun na yung suntok na nagsimula ng lahat. As we can see, hilong-hilo si Banal at matagal naka-recover. Then mali rin kasi ni Perez, kita niya he already had the opportunity to win an upset di niya na sana ginawa yung illegal punch. Alam natin at ni Banal na if natuloy yung laban, KO ang katapusan. Nag acting siya,he made sure na di matutuloy ang laban. If nakita niyo yung video sa youtube, the ones nearest to him at that time were perez' corner. Nagrereklamo sila kasi alam nilang nag-aacting lang si Banal, napatawa pa nga yung isa nung naging OA na ginawa ni Banal eh. In essence he quit again!

Banal
vs Concepcion = Was winning the fight,naubusan ng hangin,na KND,binilangan ng referee,hindi tumayo, TALO,immediately after the count tumayo.

vs Perez = Was winning the fight, naubusan ng hangin, tinamaan ng malakas na suntok,held on for dear life,illegal punch,di na tumayo to make sure di siya MATATALO.

vs Concepcion he quit to make sure di siya matalo by KO na tipong di na kailangang bilangan. mas ginusto niya matalo by KO pa rin pero yung siya ang bumigay at di yung wala na siyang magawa kasi di na siya makatayo.

vs Perez he quit to ensure his win because he knows if he allows himself to continue the fight, mapupunta yan sa situation where he was already in and that is a Concepcion situation = KO because i quit by not standing up during the count or KO na napatulog ako.

Pride is the cause of his being a quitter, what he's trying to say is i'll be defeated by my own terms and not because someone forced it on me.

Last but not the least, with all honesty walang kinalaman ang LACK OF POTASSIUM DYAN. Malaking kinalaman dyan ang HINDI 100% CONCENTRATION SA TRAINING, KASI NAHAHATI SA PAG-FAFACEBOOK ETC ETC

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: PESBUK KASI NG PESBUK E! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:53 pm 
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dapat sa MCWD reservoir sa buhisan cla mga ALA boys mg jogging. tayming kaau ang subidahon did2 para pahangin og pagahi sa bagtak nla.

minus ug stamina, hina ug bodega. looy tawon sa mga ALA boys


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:04 pm 
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eto mas grabe.
siya na mismo nagsabi na bawal daw mag facebook, pero ayan nag facebook pa talaga.

Ang laban niya was October 30, 2010 which is a Saturday.
yang post na yan Friday 8:20pm, eh sabi niya sa fight niya bukas eh di ibig sabihin he's facebooking even though BAWAL the night before his fight October 29, 2010 8:20pm ampucha.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:34 pm 
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bkit ba panay banat nyo kay banal eh style nya un wala tau magagawa, nd for all he did in the ring u wil criticize him for this fight? ur just like a perfect one, not ol performance is 100% satisfactory..even our idol manny shows some unsatisfactory performance. Why dont u just let this banal learn from his own miskate. Instead of boosting this man to improve more wat ur doing is downgrading ol his efforts from past to present. Stand on his feet and i hope u can stand on it.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:21 pm 
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tsongki wrote:
bkit ba panay banat nyo kay banal eh style nya un wala tau magagawa, nd for all he did in the ring u wil criticize him for this fight? ur just like a perfect one, not ol performance is 100% satisfactory..even our idol manny shows some unsatisfactory performance. Why dont u just let this banal learn from his own miskate. Instead of boosting this man to improve more wat ur doing is downgrading ol his efforts from past to present. Stand on his feet and i hope u can stand on it.


pacquiao shows unsatisfactory performance? lolwhen he performs h, he delivers. he does his talking in the ring. d tulad ng iba dyan daming satsat wala pa ang laban. pagdating sa laban matutulog lang pala sa isang round, 2ronds na lang panalo na nag quit pa,may laba bukas ayun facebook inatupag ayun tuloy best actor performance.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:28 pm 
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dami mo satsat, yayain mo na lang ng sparring si banal baka manalo ka pa


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:23 pm 
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phallucentrico wrote:
dami mo satsat, yayain mo na lang ng sparring si banal baka manalo ka pa


ano ka hilo? ipapahamak mo ako sa boylets eww yuck. kaw na lang kung gusto mo.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

atsaka di ka rin pala ganun ka bilib sa abilidad ni Alex John eh. kasi pati sa ordinary citizen like me you GAVE me a chance of winning by saying "baka manalo ka pa".
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:51 pm 
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tsongki wrote:
bkit ba panay banat nyo kay banal eh style nya un wala tau magagawa, nd for all he did in the ring u wil criticize him for this fight? ur just like a perfect one, not ol performance is 100% satisfactory..even our idol manny shows some unsatisfactory performance. Why dont u just let this banal learn from his own miskate. Instead of boosting this man to improve more wat ur doing is downgrading ol his efforts from past to present. Stand on his feet and i hope u can stand on it.

bro, my take is that we have members here who simply don't like any boxer who boosts his confidence by making a "show off" even before the start of the fight (like during the weigh-in time). They want a boxer who is humble enough to admit that he does not know what the outcome would be, and that he would simply try his best to win the fight (sounds familiar?). And even after the fight is over, if the boxer still feels he did nothing wrong and does not even want to admit that there was a mistake he made, naturally, it will only add to the fans disappointment and reaction.

For example, in his facebook, AJ says he wanted the fight to continue...this contrasts with the video that put him in a spot where it was really him who who didn't want the fight to continue, that's what some of the posters here are saying, "acting" because obviously the video shows his action resulted to him not wanting to continue the fight. Secondly, ayaw niyang tanggapin na may pagkakamali siya. Mayabang pang dating niya na nagsabing kung siya lang, gusto niyang ipapatuloy ang laban, kaso ayaw na ng referee. :)

That's why you can't blame some of the posters here expressing their disappointment and frustrations. :)


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good example,
si pacquiao todo ensayo. sila hindi.
si pacquiao nagdadasal sa corner. sila hindi.
si pacquiao sinasabi "i don't want to make predictions. i just want to give my fans a good fight" what he's trying to say is he let's his fists do the talking. sila, TOTODASIN action na. Hype at retaliation nga siguro, pero you don't see Pac doing that. It was only a fat bouncing bonjing who did that similar action in front of Clottey.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:14 am 
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radeon wrote:
phallucentrico wrote:
dami mo satsat, yayain mo na lang ng sparring si banal baka manalo ka pa


ano ka hilo? ipapahamak mo ako sa boylets eww yuck. kaw na lang kung gusto mo.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

atsaka di ka rin pala ganun ka bilib sa abilidad ni Alex John eh. kasi pati sa ordinary citizen like me you GAVE me a chance of winning by saying "baka manalo ka pa".
:lol: :lol: :lol:



yeah ordinary citizen ka lang... tipycal pinoy na mayabang... at ang mayabang galit sa kapwa mayabang. wew pacland really infested with anay


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:20 am 
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phallucentrico wrote:
radeon wrote:
phallucentrico wrote:
dami mo satsat, yayain mo na lang ng sparring si banal baka manalo ka pa


ano ka hilo? ipapahamak mo ako sa boylets eww yuck. kaw na lang kung gusto mo.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

atsaka di ka rin pala ganun ka bilib sa abilidad ni Alex John eh. kasi pati sa ordinary citizen like me you GAVE me a chance of winning by saying "baka manalo ka pa".
:lol: :lol: :lol:



yeah ordinary citizen ka lang... tipycal pinoy na mayabang... at ang mayabang galit sa kapwa mayabang. wew pacland really infested with anay


thanks for admitting that Alex John Banal is mayabang.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

again don't forget to just focus only on me being an "ordinary citizen" but do focus on what you said "baka manalo ka pa". that's you doubting Alex John's ability as a boxer to beat me an ordinary citizen with 100% certainty. that says so much of how skilled you think alex john is. :lol: :lol: :lol:

last but not the least, what is tipycal?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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