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Congrats AJ! premature stoppage?
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Author:  ginbulag [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:59 am ]
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di man lang niya pinalakad si hidalgo papunta sa kanya para lang ba maalis ang duda. naalal ko yung laban ni Glenn donaire at Gorres. sabi ni Donaire i cant see. inistop agad ng referee. di man lang kinlaro nung ref kung bakit di makakita. yung ganito kabilis na desisyon nagbibigay ng kotroberysa.

Author:  bajokjok [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:40 am ]
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marinduque wrote:
bajokjok wrote:
its a premature stoppage!!!! clear as day.... clearly banal`s opponent got stunned after a good left (not sure) but he was still conscious and he was struggling to have his balance back.. and he was still fighting back throwing punches... Banal may have won but he didnt learn much needed experience to make him a good title contender, hope he works more on his stamina , its his achillies heel IMO...

Hidalgo is fighting back heads down even when the ref was holding him, does it look like he's on his senses?! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


he got rocked and wobbley but .. The ref should have counted him and let him walk towards him ... from there the ref can access if he can continue or not...The ref never gave that fighter a chance to recover..

Author:  bajokjok [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:41 am ]
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khem_sy wrote:
ref tapdasan wasnt sure how to do it but he knew that the fight should be stopped. he should escorted hidalgo to his corner right after he stopped the fight instead he try to test hidalgo after waiving his hands. pretty unsure i think how to convince the crowd after the shocking moment. more practice ref!


+1

Author:  tony1946 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:49 am ]
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praktikal wrote:
What's your take amigos?

It was a courageous decision by ref Tapdasan considering the visitors might think that he's securing his countryman's win and it was at the very first round. This is the second time I saw ref Tapdasan stop a bit early.


Tama lang ang naging intervention ni Ref. Tapdasan. Pag hindi niya agad inawat si Banal, baka matamaan muli ang kalaban, mamamatay ang nasabing boksingero, tulad nang nangyari kay Karlo Maquinto; o maging gulay tulad ni Z Gorres.

Author:  barakongbaog [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:14 am ]
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A standing 8 count would be more appropriate. That way the ref would be able to gauge the condition of Hidalgo. That kind of prompt stoppage would cast doubt especially for a visiting boxer.

Author:  mayweatherbuster [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:25 am ]
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TheSubversive wrote:
if Pinoys will cry about Mexicans cheating then its time to look at these referees which are also cheating the fighters

the Mexican was wobbly but still on his feet. Why not give him a standing 8 count or simply let AJ knock him down first

pinoy refs are either corrupt, incompetent or dumb, what a shame. Banal was on his way to beating him but the ref decided to create controversy




What clear is you ALREADY LOST SANITY. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  El Pintor [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:29 am ]
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barakongbaog wrote:
A standing 8 count would be more appropriate. That way the ref would be able to gauge the condition of Hidalgo. That kind of prompt stoppage would cast doubt especially for a visiting boxer.

I agree. a standing 8 count would be more appropriate on that scenario. :D

Author:  Box_Out [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:20 am ]
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Ang masasabi ko lang did2 e premature stoppage due to dangerous power of Hidalgo that he might spoiled the title shot of BANAL. Tapdasan "as always" got a pre-fight seminar before the fight begins..got it guys?!? :D :D :D

Author:  marinduque [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:04 am ]
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khem_sy wrote:
ref tapdasan wasnt sure how to do it but he knew that the fight should be stopped. he should escorted hidalgo to his corner right after he stopped the fight instead he try to test hidalgo after waiving his hands. pretty unsure i think how to convince the crowd after the shocking moment. more practice ref!

+1, good observation, bro..

bajokjok wrote:
marinduque wrote:
bajokjok wrote:
its a premature stoppage!!!! clear as day.... clearly banal`s opponent got stunned after a good left (not sure) but he was still conscious and he was struggling to have his balance back.. and he was still fighting back throwing punches... Banal may have won but he didnt learn much needed experience to make him a good title contender, hope he works more on his stamina , its his achillies heel IMO...

Hidalgo is fighting back heads down even when the ref was holding him, does it look like he's on his senses?! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


he got rocked and wobbley but .. The ref should have counted him and let him walk towards him ... from there the ref can access if he can continue or not...The ref never gave that fighter a chance to recover..

The ref was prompted to stop the fight due to Hidalgo's condition.. The stoppage wasn't a premature one because Hidalgo was clearly out of his senses.. How can you gave a chance to a fighter who was literally twitching while standing?! Does a fighter needs to be down ala-Hatton just to make the ref stop the fight? khem_sy's post explains the mental lapse of ref after he has stopped the fight. We have to remember that we are talking about human being who happens to earn money by fighting abroad. We are just spectators who wants to get entertained here, we cannot just make a judgement on just how the fight was stopped because we were not satisfied in the end-result. I too, was disappointed.. Although there were premature stoppages that happens in several occasion, this one, I think, was a right call with error in its execution. :hat:

Author:  JCOOL2329 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:06 am ]
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mayweatherbuster wrote:
TheSubversive wrote:
if Pinoys will cry about Mexicans cheating then its time to look at these referees which are also cheating the fighters

the Mexican was wobbly but still on his feet. Why not give him a standing 8 count or simply let AJ knock him down first

pinoy refs are either corrupt, incompetent or dumb, what a shame. Banal was on his way to beating him but the ref decided to create controversy




What clear is you ALREADY LOST SANITY. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Psssst..... (he doesn't know that yet). :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Ramrod [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:14 am ]
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this is not to belittle banal's win over hidalgo....bcoz im sure it's just a matter of time that hidalgo gets KOed in that fight. it's just that in my opinion...tapdasan did a great disservice to banal with his premature stoppage of the fight. tapdasan took away from banal the opportunity to win the fight in a more convincing manner. in other words...with his premature stoppage of the fight..tapdasan spoiled everything...!! a standing 8 count would have been more appropriate...

Author:  zeke_gabriel [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:48 am ]
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the stoppage was right. the procedure was wrong. when the ref saw hidalgo was wobbly, he counted him out then waived. afterwards he asked the fighter to come forward then waived again. and again.

he should have stood by his decision after he waived the first time. walked the fighter to his corner. period.

Author:  Romy Nabas [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:23 am ]
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the referee only want to protect the health of the fighters
hidalgo was out of his senses when the fight was stopped
he was punching without direction and his knees were trembling
i watched the fight at the ringside
it was a good call by the referee 8)

Author:  PaCkErS32 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:33 am ]
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Its a premature in the sense that it was to early to stop the fight because we want more action from Banal however, the referee made the right decision to avoid more damage to the boxer...

Author:  Pork_Chop [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:41 am ]
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premature but right decision.

on hindsight, he should have done an 8-count first..

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