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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:46 am 
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Ok lang yan. Bum naman yong kalaban, ni minsan di nakatama ng malinis. Congrats AJ, but you need better competition. ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:01 pm 
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Hidalgo was a dangerous fighter if allowed to continue. When Banal rocked his world, Hidalgo was punching even the referee. It seems that Hidalgo lost control of his senses or awareness of his surroundings. To save the referee.s life, the ref stopped the contest :biglaugh:

Or perhaps the ref asked Hidalgo: "Are you in a beach or a boxing fight?"
Hidalgo: "I'm rowing a boat".
Ref: Uh-oh.. Here, let me take the fish out of your mouth.
Then Hidalgo lets him take his mouthguard off...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:14 pm 
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TheSubversive wrote:
hard_rook wrote:
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if Pinoys will cry about Mexicans cheating then its time to look at these referees which are also cheating the fighters

the Mexican was wobbly but still on his feet. Why not give him a standing 8 count or simply let AJ knock him down first

pinoy refs are either corrupt, incompetent or dumb, what a shame. Banal was on his way to beating him but the ref decided to create controversy

i guess you're really blaming God for giving you pinoy parents. nothing you can do about it, you have to kill yourself, it's good for you. 8)


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the history also goes back...

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On July 27, 1964, Gabriel “Flash” Elorde traveled to Tokyo, Japan, to defend the world super featherweight title against Teruo Osaka . Elorde appeared to be losing the fight when he dropped Osaka in the 12th round. Osaka got up, but Filipino referee Jose Padilla stopped the fight at the 1:45 mark of the round. At the time of the stoppage, Osaka was ahead in the scorecards of two judges. Feeling that referee Padilla saved Elorde from defeat, irate Japanese fans hurled seat cushions to the ring. Elorde had to be escorted by the police on his way to the dressing room. The fans only calmed down when Kotai Kikuchi, then the Secretary General of the Japanese Boxing Commission, aired over the public address system that Padilla would be summoned to explain his decision.


its no secret, pinoys are as biased as mexicans, deal with it pactards :lol:


I agree bro.Suv that some refs are bias and they include some international refs.
But the quote you gave was wrong.There was no Japanese fighter named Osaka
whom Flash Elorde faced but instead it was Teruo Kosaka.
Osaka is a Japan city which functions as one of the command centers
for the Japanese economy ( from wiki ). I wonder from which link did you take
that quote.Also, Kosaka could be leading in points when the
stoppage came 'coz hometown decisions in Japan at that time was like a plague.
But my great grandpa who saw the film of the fight swore that Elorde had punished Kosaka
terribly for 11 rounds before ref Padilla halted the fight in the 12th.

Regarding the stoppage of ref Tapdasan in the Banal bout, i think it was justified.
When hit near his right ear,Hidalgo trembled like a dying chicken.He countinued to
punch but was clearly out of his senses.It was an instict reaction like what happened
to Montiel against ND,wherein his legs seemed to did some cycling while lying
unconscious on the canvass.Ref counted out Hidalgo then signalled him to come
forward,The ref looked at his legs which could be still shaky and unsteady.
Premature? The ref was in a face to face situation with Hidalgo and he can analyze
the sight of the latter's eyes and his body and legs movements.If the ref let the fight
to be continued,Banal could have pounded the nails on the coffin.If Hidalgo died or
was incapacitated,then who will be blamed? Banal? Nope.The fans who are claiming it
was a premature tko? Nope and nothing nope but it will be ref Tapdasan. 8) 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:30 pm 
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^Wow. 4th pwnage this week. Sub must be having multiple orgasm.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:33 pm 
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[/quote]

Tony Pesons
Danrax tapdasan

the history also goes back...

Quote:
On July 27, 1964, Gabriel “Flash” Elorde traveled to Tokyo, Japan, to defend the world super featherweight title against Teruo Osaka . Elorde appeared to be losing the fight when he dropped Osaka in the 12th round. Osaka got up, but Filipino referee Jose Padilla stopped the fight at the 1:45 mark of the round. At the time of the stoppage, Osaka was ahead in the scorecards of two judges. Feeling that referee Padilla saved Elorde from defeat, irate Japanese fans hurled seat cushions to the ring. Elorde had to be escorted by the police on his way to the dressing room. The fans only calmed down when Kotai Kikuchi, then the Secretary General of the Japanese Boxing Commission, aired over the public address system that Padilla would be summoned to explain his decision.


its no secret, pinoys are as biased as mexicans, deal with it pactards :lol:[/quote]

I agree bro.Suv that some refs are bias and they include some international refs.
But the quote you gave was wrong.There was no Japanese fighter named Osaka
whom Flash Elorde faced but instead it was Teruo Kosaka.
Osaka is a Japan city which functions as one of the command centers
for the Japanese economy ( from wiki ). I wonder from which link did you take
that quote.Also, Kosaka could be leading in points when the
stoppage came 'coz hometown decisions in Japan at that time was like a plague.
But my great grandpa who saw the film of the fight swore that Elorde had punished Kosaka
terribly for 11 rounds before ref Padilla halted the fight in the 12th.

Regarding the stoppage of ref Tapdasan in the Banal bout, i think it was justified.
When hit near his right ear,Hidalgo trembled like a dying chicken.He countinued to
punch but was clearly out of his senses.It was an instict reaction like what happened
to Montiel against ND,wherein his legs seemed to did some cycling while lying
unconscious on the canvass.Ref counted out Hidalgo then signalled him to come
forward,The ref looked at his legs which could be still shaky and unsteady.
Premature? The ref was in a face to face situation with Hidalgo and he can analyze
the sight of the latter's eyes and his body and legs movements.If the ref let the fight
to be continued,Banal could have pounded the nails on the coffin.If Hidalgo died or
was incapacitated,then who will be blamed? Banal? Nope.The fans who are claiming it
was a premature tko? Nope and nothing nope but it will be ref Tapdasan. 8) 8)[/quote]


haha! millions of hits!
tama! only the ref will be blamed if something happened to hidalgo.. not those who
knows a lot of commenting...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:04 pm 
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Oh com'on guys! TITLE SHOT is in the air and if HIDALGO spoiled it then there will be no more crack for the TITLE..
Haven't you guys visit the WBO records? HE's on the top spot and if he lose in that fight he can fall fast! :chainsaw:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:23 pm 
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genetophile wrote:
TheSubversive wrote:
its no secret, pinoys are as biased as mexicans, deal with it pactards :lol:


and you are full of hatred.

have you accepted Batangueno's challenge of a basketball match?



no not feed the troll 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:30 pm 
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TheSubversive wrote:
i always cry and i felt like cheated when i pwned myself on another thread

I was like wobbly and out of my feet. they are so mean, they did not gave me a chance to recuperate from my shameful stupidity

my brain is either corrupt, incompetent or am i just plain dumb? what a shame. I was on my way to stir the hornet's nest when genetophile and others gangbanged me...



poor subversive :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Tanong lang baklitang radeona, nasa WORLD CUP na ba yung mga fafa mo?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:04 pm 
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http://philboxing.com/news/story-68089.html

See, even Team Hidalgo admitted in the end that it was a good stoppage.. :hat:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:09 pm 
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for me, it was a right thing to do.

but, the way tapdasan stopped it, was hilarious :lol:

he waived the fight off, then instructed hidalgo to walk towards his direction. then waived again. and again. :lol:

he waived off 3x and i dunno what was on his mind. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:16 pm 
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I do agree with the standing 8 count, let Hidalgo walk towards him (ref T.) then decide.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:18 pm 
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zeke_gabriel wrote:
for me, it was a right thing to do.

but, the way tapdasan stopped it, was hilarious :lol:

he waived the fight off, then instructed hidalgo to walk towards his direction. then waived again. and again. :lol:

he waived off 3x and i dunno what was on his mind. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:13 pm 
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bajokjok wrote:
its a premature stoppage!!!! clear as day.... clearly banal`s opponent got stunned after a good left (not sure) but he was still conscious and he was struggling to have his balance back.. and he was still fighting back throwing punches... Banal may have won but he didnt learn much needed experience to make him a good title contender, hope he works more on his stamina , its his achillies heel IMO...


Like what you have said above, the fighter was still boxing even if the fight had stopped already. Clearly he was out of his senses. Clearly TS you don't have good judgement in how to analyze a fight. 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:22 pm 
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The standing 8 count rule is no longer used in professional boxing, only in the amateurs.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:34 pm 
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no.1fan wrote:
bajokjok wrote:
its a premature stoppage!!!! clear as day.... clearly banal`s opponent got stunned after a good left (not sure) but he was still conscious and he was struggling to have his balance back.. and he was still fighting back throwing punches... Banal may have won but he didnt learn much needed experience to make him a good title contender, hope he works more on his stamina , its his achillies heel IMO...


Like what you have said above, the fighter was still boxing even if the fight had stopped already. Clearly he was out of his senses. Clearly TS you don't have good judgement in how to analyze a fight. 8)


That's why I asked. :roll:

Thanks for posting, at least I learned something.


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