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Author:  fraubau [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:24 pm ]
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banal's style leaves a lot to be desired. minimal use of jabs, most of his throws were power punches. idk but that only surprises opponents at the beginning. if they arent put out early, then power becones less of a factor. doesnt create distance either by footwork or proper use of punches. questionable ring smarts. anyways the list goes on but at the end of the day, im no trainer just a boxing fan and what i should've said was that banal prolly could've done better. sure i do hope he does better next time but ultimately i dnt see him being a world beater in the future.

Author:  kuhol [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:47 pm ]
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darren_simion wrote:
ALA fighters are mentally weak. THey are brought up fighting bums who wilt at the slightest pressure. Thats why when ALA fighters meet someone who's actually worth his salt, they dont know what to do.



:lol: :lol:

Author:  Uchiha_Nivri [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:59 pm ]
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pranzer wrote:
Uchiha_Nivri wrote:
mcknug wrote:
in war it's not all about firepower

you have to put some armor

and fuel to stay fighting


indeed... as Sun Tzu said: "War is an economic matter"..

before the fight, they should have known that Banal had limited "resources"..

they should have focused on acquiring such "resources", and studied how they can use it in the most efficient way that they could.. :)



Be explicit. What resources are you inferring?


"FUEL"... :)

Author:  Indomitable_Soldier [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:59 pm ]
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For me Banal is a good puncher he only need durability. He needs to kill himself to the pain tolerance training. This kind of training could immune even the most painful bruise or hard punch even in his face or chin.

Author:  coolka [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:15 pm ]
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Blah blah blah he was simply out muscled period.

Author:  Wong [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:45 pm ]
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What went wrong?

I have never been impressed with Banal/BoomBoom. They have the same skills and are just on the same level, pang suntukan-kalye lang. When can we call them polished boxers???

:biglaugh:

Author:  Kamatis [ Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:56 pm ]
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Seriously, what went WONG. :biglaugh: :smoke:

Author:  ORIENTMANJU [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:02 am ]
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banal is still young an he is good but does not have the toughness against brutal beating. all he needs right now is to fight amart, develop a good defense ala gerry penalosa or an approach of the fight like donaire or even mayweather. a lot of world champs needs not to fight like packy or rios in order to win. learn how to hit and run and grab to avoid further beating. banal still have a lot of years if he change his style. good luck

Author:  Maw [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:21 am ]
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ALA STAMINA eh!

Author:  dominic [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:25 am ]
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banal had been fighting here in pinas for quite sometime already and been fed, almost always, bums. his handler should have brought him to america frequently for exposure to more challenging fighters from different countries. how can the ala boys show their true caliber if they're always fighting never heard of foreign boxers here in the philippines? ala boxers are actually no different from thai boxers who seldom fight outside of their country and tend to accumulate win after win against bums just to pad their record (for pogi points). it's time to pit the ala boys against worthy opponents so that we may know their true worth as early as possible. para magka-alaman na.

Author:  Wong [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:31 am ]
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ORIENTMANJU wrote:
banal is still young an he is good but does not have the toughness against brutal beating. all he needs right now is to fight amart, develop a good defense ala gerry penalosa or an approach of the fight like donaire or even mayweather. a lot of world champs needs not to fight like packy or rios in order to win. learn how to hit and run and grab to avoid further beating. banal still have a lot of years if he change his style. good luck


Banal is still young? There are many champions younger than him.

Author:  caloy76 [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:51 am ]
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dominic wrote:
banal had been fighting here in pinas for quite sometime already and been fed, almost always, bums. his handler should have brought him to america frequently for exposure to more challenging fighters from different countries. how can the ala boys show their true caliber if they're always fighting never heard of foreign boxers here in the philippines? ala boxers are actually no different from thai boxers who seldom fight outside of their country and tend to accumulate win after win against bums just to pad their record (for pogi points). it's time to pit the ala boys against worthy opponents so that we may know their true worth as early as possible. para magka-alaman na.


Let's send him to Mexico for toughening up.... :shock:

Author:  cinderella_man [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:04 am ]
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Kamatis wrote:
Seriously, what went WONG. :biglaugh: :smoke:
hehehe BOOM! :biglaugh:

Author:  devondenom [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:48 am ]
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ORIENTMANJU wrote:
banal is still young an he is good but does not have the toughness against brutal beating. all he needs right now is to fight amart, develop a good defense ala gerry penalosa or an approach of the fight like donaire or even mayweather. a lot of world champs needs not to fight like packy or rios in order to win. learn how to hit and run and grab to avoid further beating. banal still have a lot of years if he change his style. good luck


I agree with you. Fighting smart is really one of those aspects that aspiring Filipino boxers mostly ignores. Perhaps they're not aware na puhunan nila ang katawan nila so they need to prevent accumulating so many punches from their opponent if they want to last long in this type of profession. But of course sometimes lessons are learned the hard way. All the ALA people needs to do is to re-assess their system perhaps on the part of coaching and psychological preparation of their fighters. But hey, They've got one world champion (Donnie Nietes) and young fighters so Banal's loss would not totally mean so much on their stable/promotion. In fact, it was the only stable I know that manage and supports their fighters well. Look at Z Gorres, if it happens that he is managed by other Filipino Promoters would you think that he will still have the support and compassion that these ALA people provides? I don't think so.

Author:  tiguwang [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:57 am ]
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ORIENTMANJU wrote:
banal is still young an he is good but does not have the toughness against brutal beating. all he needs right now is to fight amart, develop a good defense ala gerry penalosa or an approach of the fight like donaire or even mayweather. a lot of world champs needs not to fight like packy or rios in order to win. learn how to hit and run and grab to avoid further beating. banal still have a lot of years if he change his style. good luck



that's true...

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