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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:14 pm 
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Great thread....It's just unfortunate that Wes won't received the full and proper guidance that he needs. Wes i believe are far excellent than that of past PI chess assets. He's the real deal. These past people are also relatively excellent which ended insignificant due to misguidance. Even Wes reach that elo, it's nothing should these guidance be the same. He'll end up as the greatest Philippine prodigy that DRAWN over to hyper GMs of the world. :biglaugh:


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Great thread....It's just unfortunate that Wes won't received the full and proper guidance that he needs. Wes i believe are far excellent than that of past PI chess assets. He's the real deal. These past people are also relatively excellent which ended insignificant due to misguidance. Even Wes reach that elo, it's nothing should these guidance be the same. He'll end up as the greatest Philippine prodigy that DRAWN over to hyper GMs of the world. :biglaugh:


Yup ... somebody a Great Coach (who had experienced training and developed Champions) ... should guide him & extract the best from Wesley! It should be somebody from the outside ... a Russian ... an Ukranian coach or a Russian Trained coach will do !?

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NCFP should try Coach Elizbar Ubilava ... Why not??? The former coach of Viswanathan Anand! Since Wesley had previously had said that his style is close to Vishy Anand! I think Coach Ubilava would be great for him.

Grandmaster Elizbar Ubilava was a two-time coach of the Indian Olympiad team, Ubilava has been coaching many Indian youngsters.
ref: >>> http://www.hinduonnet.com/2008/01/13/st ... 141700.htm

other refs: http://cyberchess.co.in/training-camps/ ... ining-camp

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Wala ako maintindihan Sir Joeyj di kasi chess ang laro ko :banghead:
anyhow goodluck to Wesley So :D

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Wala ako maintindihan Sir Joeyj di kasi chess ang laro ko :banghead:
anyhow goodluck to Wesley So :D


maybe now is the time bro, D_R :mrgreen:

wesley has a bright future.

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Let us learn from our Neighbors !!! :D

In addition to Vietnam & China ... we have another Asian neighbor INDIA !!!

Ref: >>> http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/stor ... BAw=&type=

Indian chess is set for more glory
R Srinivasa Raghavan
First Published : 23 Aug 2009 10:31:00 AM
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An Excerpt:

Chess is one sport wherein India has consistently performed well at the international level. The game has witnessed phenomenal growth in the country in the last two decades. India is currently the holder of eight world titles — men’s world champion, world junior boys’ champion, world junior girls’ champion, world U-16 boys’ champion, world U-14 boys’ and girls’ champions, world U-12 boys’ champion and World Youth Chess Olympiad winner.

From having one grandmaster in 1987 to 18 now, Indian chess is set for more glory with more and more players taking up the sport.

From being an ordinary force in the 1980s, India has become a powerhouse in the world of chess.

Five factors contributed to India’s transformation: Anand, age-group tournaments, computers, highly motivated players and coaches.

1. The Anand factor
Viswanathan Anand’s superlative performance in the last 20 years has been the biggest factor in India’s chess revolution. He has inspired millions of his countrymen by raising the bar higher and higher. By rubbing shoulders with the Kasparovs and Karpovs for a long time and silencing his critics by winning the world title against Vladimir Kramnik in Bonn in the match format, Anand has instilled the belief that Indians can become world-beaters.

2. Age-group tournaments
India has benefited immensely from age-group tournaments, which was started in the mid 1990s. By playing from the age of seven or eight in district, state, and national-level tournaments, youngsters gain a lot of experience by the time they turn 15.

3. Computer back-up
Now, one can download thousands of games every week from Internet websites. The days of tricking an opponent by having more material is a thing of the past.
The other important facet of the computer is that it can be used as a training tool. To improve and sharpen their skills players play training games with chess software like Fritz, Hiarcs and Rybka, to name a few. The computer also helps in finding hidden possibilities, besides finding flaws in one’s analysis in complicated positions.

4. Highly-motivated players
The current generation of players aim high, work hard, employ reputed coaches, and want to make an impact in the international arena. They are not satisfied with anything less. India is now able to field an all-GM team in the Chess Olympiad, which was a distant possibility once. Consistent performances have vindicated India’s growth in the world of chess. In the last one year, India’s performance has been close to spectacular: India won the Youth Chess Olympiad ahead of Russia; Anand retained his world title; Abhijeet Gupta and Dronavalli Harika bagged the world junior boys’ and girls’ titles.

5. World-class coaches
We have coaches for all levels and plenty of academies cater to that need. Barring some of the top players, most of them double up as coach with the idea of increasing their knowledge besides enhancing their income. With coaches to monitor their progress and accompany them for tournaments abroad, players make rapid progress over a period of time.
The world’s second youngest GM, Negi is one example of how constantly working with strong coaches can work wonders. He has even worked with former World Championship challenger Nigel Short. Negi is already a 2600 ELO player and with age and time on his side should make it big.
Another welcome development is having camps with reputed coaches before big events like the Chess Olympiad or Asian Games. For the coaches from the West, India is a favourite destination. Lev Psakhis, Evgeny Vladimirov, Ruslan Sherbakov and Elizbar Ubilava are some of the popular coaches in India.

Success after success denotes that Indian chess is on the right track. The sport will have an even stronger base in the country with more sponsors and more international tournaments happening in India.

With Ukraine and Armenia breaking the Russian domination in the Chess Olympiad there will come a time when India might win the Olympiad even though it looks far-fetched at the moment. That day will be a red-letter day in Indian chess.

Read more: >>> http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/stor ... BAw=&type=


As of Jan 2010 Fide Listing ... India ranked #7 in the Top Countries listing. >>> http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml

It has One(1) Hyper GM:
1 Anand, Viswanathan g IND 2790 1969 (Current FIDE World Champ)

and six(6) Super GMs
1 Harikrishna, P. g IND 2672 1986
2 Ganguly, Surya Shekhar g IND 2654 1983
3 Sasikiran, Krishnan g IND 2653 1981
4 Sandipan, Chanda g IND 2622 1983
5 Negi, Parimarjan g IND 2621 1993
6 Koneru, Humpy g IND 2614 1987


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dhudes_rally wrote:
Wala ako maintindihan Sir Joeyj di kasi chess ang laro ko :banghead:
anyhow goodluck to Wesley So :D


maybe now is the time bro, D_R :mrgreen:

wesley has a bright future.


Welcome ... Good to see you both here! :D
We are all learner of chess here bros ! :biglaugh:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:28 pm 
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The race is on
Monday, February 22, 2010


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Who do you think will be the first ASEAN chess player ever to break the 2700 Elo mark? (Please educate this blogger if an ASEAN player had already made the record.)

If the Philippines produced the first grandmaster in Asia in the name of the legendary GM Eugene Torre, I guess it would be Vietnam which could produce the first ASEAN player to reach the 2700 Elo mark.

The live ratings of the leading contemporary ASEAN players will show us the whole picture.

As of today (February 23, 2010), GM Le Quang Liem of Vietnam (2647), fresh from conquering the Aeroflot Open 2010 in Moscow,Russia, leads the race with a live rating of 2689, just 11 Elo points shy off the coveted mark. Next in line is the Philippines' Numero Uno GM Wesley So (2656) who now parades a live rating of 2665.3, or 33.7 Elo points off the target. Both GMs Le and So played in the Aeroflot Open.


I did a quick search Bro JoeyJ
If my inputs on the search tool is correct, yep, there are no ASEAN player with a 2700 rating (the list shows all players with 2700+ Elo rating) :
http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.phtml ... y&line=asc

Joining this elite list would be a very very big accomplishment for Wesley!

Go Wesley!

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Great Thread joeyj. At least we have an official So Thread. :D

Wes is really talented. To go this far with lack of proper training gives you an idea that he is special. His aggressive style is also unique and rich in potential. A high profile coach will give him more confidence in his game, control in his aggression and composure during endgame.

As I/We observed in his recent matches, So's endgame needs more improvement. (sayang yung advantage na binibigay ng pagiging agresibo niya) A coach who will challenge him during training may fill the gap. During practice, Chess softwares will help him solve some problems but an equally skilled and more experienced chess player will put him in situations akin to what he experienced during the closing minutes of the Giri match (ehem :shock: ). Men can sometimes be unpredictably dangerous. :lol:

The Chinese and the Viets are doing great in their chess program. Maybe the relationship between Russia and the other communist countries makes it easier for Chinese and Vietnamese.


Welcome to Wesley So's thread bro "brawler"! :D

Wesley has plenty of room for improvement ... still young! Yup with a right & experienced coach & coaching staff ... surely he will go far & even beyond our expections!

The key here is an excellent coach & training program and of course proper motivation to excel! don't forget financial support to be more than sufficient! :)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:59 pm 
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joeyj wrote:
The race is on
Monday, February 22, 2010


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Who do you think will be the first ASEAN chess player ever to break the 2700 Elo mark? (Please educate this blogger if an ASEAN player had already made the record.)

If the Philippines produced the first grandmaster in Asia in the name of the legendary GM Eugene Torre, I guess it would be Vietnam which could produce the first ASEAN player to reach the 2700 Elo mark.

The live ratings of the leading contemporary ASEAN players will show us the whole picture.

As of today (February 23, 2010), GM Le Quang Liem of Vietnam (2647), fresh from conquering the Aeroflot Open 2010 in Moscow,Russia, leads the race with a live rating of 2689, just 11 Elo points shy off the coveted mark. Next in line is the Philippines' Numero Uno GM Wesley So (2656) who now parades a live rating of 2665.3, or 33.7 Elo points off the target. Both GMs Le and So played in the Aeroflot Open.


I did a quick search Bro JoeyJ
If my inputs on the search tool is correct, yep, there are no ASEAN player with a 2700 rating (the list shows all players with 2700+ Elo rating) :
http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.phtml ... y&line=asc

Joining this elite list would be a very very big accomplishment for Wesley!

Go Wesley!


Yup .., your right Bro ycg! No ASEAN yet on the List! :D

If GM Le Quang Liem of Vietnam makes it ahead of Wesley ... then ... it doesn't matter ... coz Wesley is 2Yrs younger than him! :biglaugh:

It just happen that GM Liem has the right coach in the person of former FIDE World Champion (1999) GM Alexander Khalifman RUS and GM Wesley So has none! Vietnam's govt investment on Liem which started about 2-years ago or more is already producing returns! Hope our proper authorities had learned from this experience & correct things in due time before it's too late ! :)

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Additionally, there are only 35 GMs so far who had maintained this 2700+ ELO ratings and they are found in the FIDE's List as of Jan 2010.

Pls see here for details ...

>>> http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.phtml ... &line=desc

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he needs his Pacland ninongs to up his monthly stipend. we could contribute, ya know.

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Maybe Wesley can create his own paypal account where his supporters can contribute directly to him. I think a minimum of $5 won't hurt our pockets. We can at least cover his supplements. PED? :lol:


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FIDE LIST OF Hyper-GMs (2700+ ELO) as of Jan 2010

>>> http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.phtml ... &line=desc

Players found in FIDE Rating list 35

IDcode Name T WT Oth. T. Fed Rtg Exp B-Year S F

4100018 Kasparov, Garry g FST RUS 2812 0 1963 M i
1503014 Carlsen, Magnus g NOR 2810 2.9 1990 M
2900084 Topalov, Veselin g BUL 2805 0 1975 M
5000017 Anand, Viswanathan g IND 2790 -3.5 1969 M
4101588 Kramnik, Vladimir g RUS 2788 1.9 1975 M
13300474 Aronian, Levon g ARM 2781 1.3 1982 M
2805677 Gelfand, Boris g ISR 2761 -10.6 1968 M
13400630 Gashimov, Vugar g AZE 2759 -18.8 1986 M
14100010 Ivanchuk, Vassily g UKR 2749 -0.8 1969 M
8601429 Wang, Yue g CHN 2749 0 1987 M
4102142 Svidler, Peter g RUS 2744 6.4 1976 M
13401319 Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar g AZE 2741 18.5 1985 M
703303 Leko, Peter g HUN 2739 -3.8 1979 M
14103320 Ponomariov, Ruslan g UKR 2737 0 1983 M
4126025 Grischuk, Alexander g RUS 2736 20 1983 M
14102951 Eljanov, Pavel g UKR 2736 0 1983 M
13400924 Radjabov, Teimour g AZE 2733 7.2 1987 M
4116992 Morozevich, Alexander g RUS 2732 -17.4 1977 M
4122356 Jakovenko, Dmitry g RUS 2730 -4.9 1983 M
623539 Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime g FRA 2730 -3.3 1990 M
2209390 Shirov, Alexei g ESP 2723 14.3 1972 M
14109603 Karjakin, Sergey g RUS 2720 4.8 1990 M
4120787 Malakhov, Vladimir g RUS 2716 5.4 1980 M
8602883 Wang, Hao g CHN 2715 0 1989 M
605506 Bacrot, Etienne g FRA 2713 1.4 1983 M
3503240 Dominguez Perez, Leinier g CUB 2712 1.3 1983 M
702293 Almasi, Zoltan g HUN 2710 9.5 1976 M
309095 Navara, David g CZE 2708 0 1985 M
2016192 Nakamura, Hikaru g USA 2708 26.8 1987 M
310204 Movsesian, Sergei g SVK 2708 0.6 1978 M
4147235 Tomashevsky, Evgeny g RUS 2705 -4 1987 M
2205530 Vallejo Pons, Francisco g ESP 2705 3.2 1982 M
13601520 Jobava, Baadur g GEO 2704 -9.5 1983 M
4138147 Alekseev, Evgeny g RUS 2703 -3.4 1985 M
14200244 Kasimdzhanov, Rustam g UZB 2702 0 1979 M


Note: Listing here for record purposes since a New Updated Listing will be published by FIDE come March 2010.

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he needs his Pacland ninongs to up his monthly stipend. we could contribute, ya know.


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Maybe Wesley can create his own paypal account where his supporters can contribute directly to him. I think a minimum of $5 won't hurt our pockets. We can at least cover his supplements. PED? :lol:


Good ideas bros ... we will research on that and/or suggest to Wesley to open a paypal account !!! :D

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