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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:00 am 
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I am looking for the most used way of using the chess clock in games.

we have a local tournament where we are given 2 minutes per move within 1 hour. and if that 1 hour expires, the player with the most number of pieces captured wins! :shock:


pls. Google wont give me anything.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:40 am 
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miron_lang wrote:
Link please..

I am looking for the most used way of using the chess clock in games.

we have a local tournament where we are given 2 minutes per move within 1 hour. and if that 1 hour expires, the player with the most number of pieces captured wins! :shock:


pls. Google wont give me anything.



Questions Mod.

What type of tournament? Individual or team

Amateur level (Class A,B or C), mix of non rated and FIDE rated players, Executive, OPEN/National Open (non rated, rated, NM, IM,GM)

Are they required to...

write chess moves/notations on scoresheet?

How many rounds to be played per day in how many days?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:31 pm 
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company tournament lang.

ano ba basic sa clock? 1Hr per player? per game?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:08 pm 
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miron_lang wrote:
company tournament lang.

ano ba basic sa clock? 1Hr per player? per game?



Kung company tournament lang, no need for writing chess moves on scoresheet. That's assuming the participants are non-seasoned players. Malamang karamihan dyan di sanay sa chess clock.

Kung 3-5 days ang tournament, or 2 to 3 days. Pwede na 5 to 7 rounds.

Depende pa rin. Pwede yung sinasabing active chess. 30 minutes per player or 1 hour per game.

If di sanay sa clock ang marami, i suggest 1 hr per player or 2 hours per game.

At least 2 rounds sa isang araw. Kaya 5 round in two days, or 7 rounds in 3 days.

Rules...

touch move. Move first before punching the clock. The clock is placed in favor of the player in black pieces or to his right.
When castling, first to touch should be the King, not the rook. 2 violations yata, minus 5 minutes sa time.
During skirmish in time trouble, pag nagkaproblema... before complaining to the arbiter, he must put the clock in neutral.
Only one hand should punch the clock. hindi left and right. kung righty or lefty ka, yan lang gagamitin whether in favor to your right ang clock. bawal ang pa iba iba ang ginagamit. For instance, you move the piece with your right pero you punch with your left. bawal yan. dapat isang kamay lang.

Yung sinabi mo na whoever is left with the most pieces should win the game pag naubos ang time ng kalaban, depende pa rin. kung ang naiwan sa kanya ay lone bishop or knight, tabla yan dahil it's not possible to mate with a knight or bishop. In special case, yung queening pawn on either g or h square ay opposite sa color ng bishop, draw din yan. Opposite colored bishops with similar pawns in seemingly drawish endgame, pwede i suggest sa arbiter to decide if its drawish if the one complaining is in deep time trouble.

Last suggestion, tama na yung basic rules. wag na icomplicate para di mailang ang players not used to chess clocks dahil imbes na magconcentrate sa laro, the complicated rules will distract him and most potentially the clock itself, for first timers.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:15 pm 
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miron_lang wrote:
company tournament lang.

ano ba basic sa clock? 1Hr per player? per game?


FIDE rules ba mod? There are actually 3 types of Time Controls: Standard/classical, Rapid & Blitz

see here FIDE Handbook on this:

Standard time control: http://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=39&view=category

Rapid & Blitz time controls: http://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/wrbc_regulations_2016_open.pdf

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:28 pm 
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Correction: queening pawn on a, not g, or h square is opposite to the color of remaining bishop is draw.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:28 pm 
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straight forward na lang mod...

no time limit per move...

basta at the end of 1 hour whoever has the number of pieces captured wins.

tapos na lunchtime, balik na sa trabaho...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:33 pm 
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bugoyparin wrote:
straight forward na lang mod...

no time limit per move...

basta at the end of 1 hour whoever has the number of pieces captured wins.

tapos na lunchtime, balik na sa trabaho...

ahihihihihi

Nakngteteng, kahit post lang basahin ko at itago ang username, mahuhulaan ko kung sino.
Kaya nga nag request si mod ng rule sa chess clock para me definite end ang game. Paano kung ang kalaban ayaw mag resign at sobrang tagal tumira, masisira ang schedule ng next round.

Dios ko, nag isip sana bago nag post. Pati ba naman sa chess topic...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:36 pm 
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humihingi lang ng suggestion si mod...

kanya kanyag suhestyon...

sabi nga lagi ni mod... walang tama or mali sa suhestyon...

huwag kasi laging apekted...

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miron_lang wrote:
Link please..

I am looking for the most used way of using the chess clock in games.

we have a local tournament where we are given 2 minutes per move within 1 hour. and if that 1 hour expires, the player with the most number of pieces captured wins! :shock:


pls. Google wont give me anything.


First time i heard such format. If I am you sir, I will suggest to the company to use the standard chess tournament format to avoid confusion and hassle.

I will suggest 1 hour for each player. A player whose time expired will lose if the position is not book draw. If your time is expiring but the position is book draw, you can claim a draw. Dapat may arbiter.

Kung gahol sa oras, pwede din ang rapid format na 25 minutes for each player.

Eto mga official rules:

Kung ano pinangtitira mo, iyon dapat ang pang tap mo sa clock. If your opponent made an illegal move na nacapture mo king niya, talo na siya. Other illegal moves, bawas ng oras sa kalaban.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:53 pm 
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this is a company tournament, hindi naman ito fide sanctioned...

ang kulang sa kanila rito e TIME...

else, they have to shutdown the office to play classical chess we're they will play 2 hours each...

what i'm seeing sa hinihingi suhestyon ni mod e player have only 1 hour freetime...

blitz and rapid will do...

but again, pwedeng kahit anong rule ang pwedeng gamitin to align sa time constraint due to job/work..

pwedeng pwede yan mod... basta paagreehan nyo....

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we have a local tournament where we are given 2 minutes per move within 1 hour. and if that 1 hour expires, the player with the most number of pieces captured wins!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:02 pm 
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Kasi pag sinabing company tournament. Sa nag iisip, ah, sportsfest ito ng company. Meaning, no work, all play.

Kaya ask ko si mod ilang days ang bakante kasi dun madedetermine ang number of rounds at realistic chess time for each player.

Kung walang oras ang laro. Sa hindi masyado nag iisip, akala mas madaling matapos ang laro. Pero ang totoo, mas lalong tatagal dahil maraming players ang hindi nagre resign sa losing position.

One purpose for using chess clocks or timers, ay para sabay matatapos ang isang round. Say, nag start ng 9am. Matatapos lahat ng games by 11am if 1 hr per player ang ibibigay. Yan ang tinatawag na ORGANIZED Tournament.

Imagine walang chess clocks ang game. Yung iba tapos na ng 10 0r 11 am. yung iba naglalaban pa hanggang alas dose kasi ayaw mag resign ng isa o matagal tumira.

Napakadaling isipin using common sense.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:12 pm 
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wala naman akong sinabing walang ches clock...

mod even pointing out that whoever the most captured wins...

wala sa chess rule yan di ba?

so anything is possible basta mapag agreehan ng mga lalaro...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:31 pm 
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btw, wala pa akong nakita na company will shutdown/closed because of company sponsored tournament...

madalas yan breaktime or afterwork, weekend...

binibigyan na lang ng overtime pay yung mga employee as compensation of staying in office after work...


but closing it down?

ano ROI nyan?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:32 pm 
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I see.

hindi ko din ma take yung 2 mins per move tapos yung naglalaban pa mag momonitor dahil kulang kami sa arbitter. hahaha


recommend ko na lang na fix 30mins each player. at pag nag expire time talo na. yan pinakabasic sa tingin ko.


Salamat sa inyo mga kosa :D

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