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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:14 am 
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The tandem of Abe and Buboy can be summed up into.
They are not the REAL DEAL but as Onyok said No DEL as in Deal or No Deal.

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what abe need is a real trainer...a former boxer and not coming from the kitchen.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:25 am 
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godofredo wrote:
The tandem of Abe and Buboy can be summed up into.
They are not the REAL DEAL but as Onyok said No DEL as in Deal or No Deal.

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what abe need is a real trainer...a former boxer and not coming from the kitchen.


Abe has the potential..
But Buboy don't know what he is doing..
I'll say it again:Buboy has no gameplan against JuanMa.
Imagine, he allowed Abe to go toe-to-toe against a proven knock-out artist?? :(
I say, Buboy failed to help Abe.. :(
Villamor of ALA Boys would do much better than what Buboy has done.. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:47 am 
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STOP blaming buboy even Freddie Roach cant train the DONKEY ABE to run like a thorough breed.

abe is another randy suidco and bb bautista. magaling lang kung ang kalaban walang kuwenta.

give abe all the tricycle drivers and the can tomatos that is where he is good.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:56 am 
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Abe has the potential..
But Buboy don't know what he is doing..
I'll say it again:Buboy has no gameplan against JuanMa.
Imagine, he allowed Abe to go toe-to-toe against a proven knock-out artist?? :(
I say, Buboy failed to help Abe.. :(
Villamor of ALA Boys would do much better than what Buboy has done.. :)


thats the right and only way abe could win that fight. toe to toe..there is no excuses...juanma is a great fighter...stop blaming trainers and fighters...if you are following the sport you already know this scenario can happen...wtf your expecting..abe did a great job for dropping juanma.. and buboy knows boxing since before nuthuggers who doesnt know about boxing posting in the internet (that's circa "pac beat barera - 2010")


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:01 am 
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dwight wrote:
godofredo wrote:
The tandem of Abe and Buboy can be summed up into.
They are not the REAL DEAL but as Onyok said No DEL as in Deal or No Deal.

Image
what abe need is a real trainer...a former boxer and not coming from the kitchen.


Abe has the potential..
But Buboy don't know what he is doing..
I'll say it again:Buboy has no gameplan against JuanMa.
Imagine, he allowed Abe to go toe-to-toe against a proven knock-out artist?? :(
I say, Buboy failed to help Abe.. :(
Villamor of ALA Boys would do much better than what Buboy has done.. :)


I have to say you're both right. Buboy can only share with Abe knowledge that he have learned from Pac & Roach (and/or Buboy simply may not have much to share), which I'm sure were techniques and moves that were primarily tailored for MP. Some of it may be usable, but I doubt that Abe could use many of those techniques given the disparity in natural talent between MP and Abe.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:04 am 
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xzworks wrote:
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Abe has the potential..
But Buboy don't know what he is doing..
I'll say it again:Buboy has no gameplan against JuanMa.
Imagine, he allowed Abe to go toe-to-toe against a proven knock-out artist?? :(
I say, Buboy failed to help Abe.. :(
Villamor of ALA Boys would do much better than what Buboy has done.. :)


thats the right and only way abe could win that fight. toe to toe..there is no excuses...juanma is a great fighter...stop blaming trainers and fighters...if you are following the sport you already know this scenario can happen...wtf your expecting..abe did a great job for dropping juanma.. and buboy knows boxing since before nuthuggers who doesnt know about boxing posting in the internet (that's circa "pac beat barera - 2010")

Going toe-to-toe right at the opening bell is the right game plan against JuanMa?? :( :(


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:06 am 
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fan ni manny wrote:
dwight wrote:
godofredo wrote:
The tandem of Abe and Buboy can be summed up into.
They are not the REAL DEAL but as Onyok said No DEL as in Deal or No Deal.

Image
what abe need is a real trainer...a former boxer and not coming from the kitchen.


Abe has the potential..
But Buboy don't know what he is doing..
I'll say it again:Buboy has no gameplan against JuanMa.
Imagine, he allowed Abe to go toe-to-toe against a proven knock-out artist?? :(
I say, Buboy failed to help Abe.. :(
Villamor of ALA Boys would do much better than what Buboy has done.. :)


I have to say you're both right. Buboy can only share with Abe knowledge that he have learned from Pac & Roach (and/or Buboy simply may not have much to share), which I'm sure were techniques and moves that were primarily tailored for MP. Some of it may be usable, but I doubt that Abe could use many of those techniques given the disparity in natural talent between MP and Abe.

That's the problem if your trainer has no real life experience atop the boxing ring.. :(


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:21 am 
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dwight wrote:
godofredo wrote:
The tandem of Abe and Buboy can be summed up into.
They are not the REAL DEAL but as Onyok said No DEL as in Deal or No Deal.

Image
what abe need is a real trainer...a former boxer and not coming from the kitchen.


Abe has the potential..
But Buboy don't know what he is doing..
Villamor of ALA Boys would do much better than what Buboy has done.. :)

I agree with you. This is not to disparage Buboy but he has no experience as a boxer. His little knowledge in boxing is only thru Roach by way of tranlation english to tagalog though manny would have understand better in cebuano.
Great trainers are former boxers, no need to mention them. They know being hit and they know the power of punches.
Abe has the power, harness the power...how. Just like the power of sun, the power of water current, can be converted to electric power...only electric engineers can do that.
Abe has a future, he is still young and we need a professional to harness that human power.
I think Onyok would do better than buboy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:23 am 
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Going toe-to-toe right at the opening bell is the right game plan against JuanMa?? :( :(



know your fighter first...wtf he will do...even penalosa a great boxer doesnt have a chance even in defensive style.even luevano...come on...abe style is brawling ...he got more chances there to win to the style he knows...i guess we all know who is this 2 fighters were talking about right....we know the levels..the chances...right..wtf...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:23 am 
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ABE is still too raw to fight JuanMa. Everybody knows that ABE has got only the puncher's chance and that's what he was doing. You can't blame the guy. He knocked JuanMa down. I think that's good enough. He needs to improve his defense and sometimes 2 or three months of training is not enough for him to defeat JuanMa. We all know who JuanMa is. He has still the talent just need more time to perfect it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:30 am 
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xzworks wrote:
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Going toe-to-toe right at the opening bell is the right game plan against JuanMa?? :( :(



know your fighter first...wtf he will do...even penalosa a great boxer doesnt have a chance even in defensive style.even luevano...come on...abe style is brawling ...he got more chances there to win to the style he knows...i guess we all know who is this 2 fighters were talking about right....we know the levels..the chances...right..wtf...

Yes, Abe is a brawler, and that's his only chance..a lucky punch..
But do you think going toe-to-toe right at the opening bell is a good gameplan? :(
I don't think so..
He should have measured JuanMa first before letting go of his haymaker..
Who knows that would be enough to put JuanMa to sleep..
I don't belittle Abe as I know he has the power to be a champion..
I am blaming Buboy for his loss.. :(


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:42 am 
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godofredo wrote:
what abe need is a real trainer...a former boxer and not coming from the kitchen.


The best trainer in the game today, Coach Freddie gave up on Abe.
Go figure, dude.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:43 am 
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with all the negative writeups, no doubt abe could be a future hall of shamer :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:53 am 
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Another case of young pinoy boxers being rushed to fight for a championship belt. Abe wasn't ready for JuanMa just like Boom Boom wasn't ready for Daniel Ponce de Leon. Let our young fighters go up the ladder so they can gain the proper experience by the time they fight for the championship.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:00 am 
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el critico wrote:
with all the negative writeups, no doubt abe could be a future hall of shamer :biglaugh:

That's possible if Buboy will continue to train him.. :lol:


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