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oskee.. ur such a loser


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Why would I be surprised of an ODLH win?


He's the bigger fighter!!




Not all bigger guys win. Watch Kaoklai vs. Mighty Mo in You Tube:


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You don't beat your body to the pulp to fight a fixed fight. Maybe in WWE.


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if he won in a dominant way, im not gonna be surprised.

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De La Hoya-Pacquiao: Head to Head
By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!
OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. MANNY PACQUIAO


DE LA HOYA

The essentials

Age: 35

Height: 5-10½

Hometown: Los Angeles

Turned pro: 1992

Record: 39-5 (30 knockouts)

Trainer: Nacho Beristain

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 3 junior middleweight

Titles: WBO super featherweight; WBO lightweight; IBF lightweight; WBC light welterweight; WBC welterweight; WBC welterweight (second time); WBC light middleweight; WBA light middleweight.

Biggest victories: Fernando Vargas, Sept. 14, 2002, KO 11; Ike Quartey, Feb. 13, 1999, W 12; Pernell Whitaker, April 12, 1997, W 12; Julio Cesar Chavez, June 7, 1996, TKO 4; Rafael Ruelas, May 6, 1995, KO 2.

Biggest losses: Bernard Hopkins, Sept. 18, 2004, KO 8; Felix Trinidad, Sept. 18, 1999, L 12; Shane Mosley, June 17, 2000, L 12; Shane Mosley, Sept. 13, 2003, L 12; Floyd Mayweather,May 5, 2007, L 12.


PACQUIAO

The essentials

Age: 29

Height: 5-6½

Hometown: General Santos City, Philippines

Turned pro: 1995

Record: 47-3-2 (35 knockouts)

Trainer: Freddie Roach

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 1 pound-for-pound; No. 2 lightweight

Titles: WBC flyweight; IBF super bantamweight; WBC super featherweight; WBC lightweight.

Biggest victories: Ledwaba, Jan. 6, 2001, TKO 6; Marco Antonio Barrera, Nov. 15, 2003, TKO 11; Erik Morales, Jan. 21, 2006, TKO 10; Barrera, Oct. 6, 2007, W 12; Juan Manuel Marquez, March 15, 2008 W 12.

Biggest losses: Rustico Torrecamp, Feb. 9, 1996, KO 3; Medgoen Singsurat, Sept. 17, 1999, KO 3; Erik Morales, March 19, 2005, L 12.


HEAD-TO-HEAD

Skills: Pacquiao evolved from a one-dimensional brawler into a very good boxer under the guidance of Freddie Roach. However, De La Hoya, even with his revolving-door approach to trainers over his career, has always been an extremely sound all-around boxer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Power: De La Hoya was once a devastating puncher but his power has diminished as he’s gone up in weight. Of course, he’s going down to 147 for the first time since 2001; he might have extra pop at welterweight. Pacquiao is not a one-punch KO artist but has always been powerful. However, at 147, he won’t be able to hurt De La Hoya.
Edge: De La Hoya

Speed: One thing Pacquiao’s opponents are often surprised by is his remarkable speed. Combine that with his tenacity and improving boxing ability and you get the best fighter in the world. De La Hoya has always been quick-handed; he’s just not as fast as Pacquiao, particularly at 35.
Edge: Pacquiao

Defense: Again, Pacquiao has improved significantly as a boxer. Still, he’s never been particularly difficult to hit. That can be attributed in good part to his aggressive fighting style. De La Hoya has always put a premium on safety, one reason he’s lasted so long in the sport. He knows how to avoid punches.
Edge: De La Hoya

Experience: Both fighters have been at the top of the sport for a generation of fighters, fighting in a combined 40 major world title fights (De La Hoya 29, Pacquiao 11). Nothing phases either one of them. De La Hoya gets a slight edge because he’s been a major player a bit longer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Chin: Neither fighter has been hurt many times. De La Hoya has been stung a few times by punches to his head but was never in serious danger. Only Bernard Hopkins has stopped him, with a body shot. Pacquiao was stopped twice early in his career but has taken some huge shots in his prime without a disastrous result.
Edge: De La Hoya

Conditioning: Freddie Roach, who has been around boxing for several decades, said he’s never seen a fighter train harder than Pacquiao. He could probably fight 20 rounds if he had to. De La Hoya has had periods in his career when he didn’t train as hard as he should have, which might explain his tendency to fade late in fights, but he seems to be extremely serious about this fight.
Edge: Pacquiao

Wear-and-tear: De La Hoya, 35, has never taken a beating but appears to have declined at least somewhat after 30 years of boxing. Pacquiao, 29, has been in many wars but seems to be as fresh as ever.
Edge: Pacquiao

Corner: Both trainers garner tremendous respect. Nacho Beristain has trained a number of champions from Mexico, making him a legend in his country. And Freddie Roach, too, has worked with many big-name champions. Clearly, he’s at the top of his game. Pacquiao gets the edge here because he’s worked long term with Roach; this is De La Hoya’s first fight with Beristain.
Edge: Pacquiao

Outcome: Ask yourself: What was your first reaction when you heard this fight would take place? Answer: Pacquiao is too small. That is the most-significant factor in the fight. Pacquiao will attack and land his share of punches. However, in the end, if De La Hoya fights a smart fight – stay outside, wrap Pacquiao up when he gets inside – he’ll wear the smaller man down.
Prediction: De La Hoya KO 10


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http://www.thering-online.com/blog/90/de_la_hoyapacquiao_head_to_head/
De La Hoya-Pacquiao: Head to Head
By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!
OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. MANNY PACQUIAO


DE LA HOYA

The essentials

Age: 35

Height: 5-10½

Hometown: Los Angeles

Turned pro: 1992

Record: 39-5 (30 knockouts)

Trainer: Nacho Beristain

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 3 junior middleweight

Titles: WBO super featherweight; WBO lightweight; IBF lightweight; WBC light welterweight; WBC welterweight; WBC welterweight (second time); WBC light middleweight; WBA light middleweight.

Biggest victories: Fernando Vargas, Sept. 14, 2002, KO 11; Ike Quartey, Feb. 13, 1999, W 12; Pernell Whitaker, April 12, 1997, W 12; Julio Cesar Chavez, June 7, 1996, TKO 4; Rafael Ruelas, May 6, 1995, KO 2.

Biggest losses: Bernard Hopkins, Sept. 18, 2004, KO 8; Felix Trinidad, Sept. 18, 1999, L 12; Shane Mosley, June 17, 2000, L 12; Shane Mosley, Sept. 13, 2003, L 12; Floyd Mayweather,May 5, 2007, L 12.


PACQUIAO

The essentials

Age: 29

Height: 5-6½

Hometown: General Santos City, Philippines

Turned pro: 1995

Record: 47-3-2 (35 knockouts)

Trainer: Freddie Roach

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 1 pound-for-pound; No. 2 lightweight

Titles: WBC flyweight; IBF super bantamweight; WBC super featherweight; WBC lightweight.

Biggest victories: Ledwaba, Jan. 6, 2001, TKO 6; Marco Antonio Barrera, Nov. 15, 2003, TKO 11; Erik Morales, Jan. 21, 2006, TKO 10; Barrera, Oct. 6, 2007, W 12; Juan Manuel Marquez, March 15, 2008 W 12.

Biggest losses: Rustico Torrecamp, Feb. 9, 1996, KO 3; Medgoen Singsurat, Sept. 17, 1999, KO 3; Erik Morales, March 19, 2005, L 12.


HEAD-TO-HEAD

Skills: Pacquiao evolved from a one-dimensional brawler into a very good boxer under the guidance of Freddie Roach. However, De La Hoya, even with his revolving-door approach to trainers over his career, has always been an extremely sound all-around boxer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Power: De La Hoya was once a devastating puncher but his power has diminished as he’s gone up in weight. Of course, he’s going down to 147 for the first time since 2001; he might have extra pop at welterweight. Pacquiao is not a one-punch KO artist but has always been powerful. However, at 147, he won’t be able to hurt De La Hoya.
Edge: De La Hoya

Speed: One thing Pacquiao’s opponents are often surprised by is his remarkable speed. Combine that with his tenacity and improving boxing ability and you get the best fighter in the world. De La Hoya has always been quick-handed; he’s just not as fast as Pacquiao, particularly at 35.
Edge: Pacquiao

Defense: Again, Pacquiao has improved significantly as a boxer. Still, he’s never been particularly difficult to hit. That can be attributed in good part to his aggressive fighting style. De La Hoya has always put a premium on safety, one reason he’s lasted so long in the sport. He knows how to avoid punches.
Edge: De La Hoya

Experience: Both fighters have been at the top of the sport for a generation of fighters, fighting in a combined 40 major world title fights (De La Hoya 29, Pacquiao 11). Nothing phases either one of them. De La Hoya gets a slight edge because he’s been a major player a bit longer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Chin: Neither fighter has been hurt many times. De La Hoya has been stung a few times by punches to his head but was never in serious danger. Only Bernard Hopkins has stopped him, with a body shot. Pacquiao was stopped twice early in his career but has taken some huge shots in his prime without a disastrous result.
Edge: De La Hoya

Conditioning: Freddie Roach, who has been around boxing for several decades, said he’s never seen a fighter train harder than Pacquiao. He could probably fight 20 rounds if he had to. De La Hoya has had periods in his career when he didn’t train as hard as he should have, which might explain his tendency to fade late in fights, but he seems to be extremely serious about this fight.
Edge: Pacquiao

Wear-and-tear: De La Hoya, 35, has never taken a beating but appears to have declined at least somewhat after 30 years of boxing. Pacquiao, 29, has been in many wars but seems to be as fresh as ever.
Edge: Pacquiao

Corner: Both trainers garner tremendous respect. Nacho Beristain has trained a number of champions from Mexico, making him a legend in his country. And Freddie Roach, too, has worked with many big-name champions. Clearly, he’s at the top of his game. Pacquiao gets the edge here because he’s worked long term with Roach; this is De La Hoya’s first fight with Beristain.
Edge: Pacquiao

Outcome: Ask yourself: What was your first reaction when you heard this fight would take place? Answer: Pacquiao is too small. That is the most-significant factor in the fight. Pacquiao will attack and land his share of punches. However, in the end, if De La Hoya fights a smart fight – stay outside, wrap Pacquiao up when he gets inside – he’ll wear the smaller man down.
Prediction: De La Hoya KO 10


now i just bolded the selected text, that's the big IF

ODLH should now worry about his conditioning, wear-and-tear, whatever... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

to break down...

Speed: MP, no doubt about that...
Experience: ODLH, coz he's been in boxing for a long time (16 years)
Power: ODLH, but he has to worry about his left shoulder ailment... :shock:
Skill: i give ODLH a slight edge, coz, you know.... :D
Footwork: MP, simply hes fast...
Conditioning & Stamina: MP
Height & Reach: ODLH...

Peace... :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:26 am 
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lbcya99 wrote:
http://www.thering-online.com/blog/90/de_la_hoyapacquiao_head_to_head/
De La Hoya-Pacquiao: Head to Head
By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!
OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. MANNY PACQUIAO


DE LA HOYA

The essentials

Age: 35

Height: 5-10½

Hometown: Los Angeles

Turned pro: 1992

Record: 39-5 (30 knockouts)

Trainer: Nacho Beristain

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 3 junior middleweight

Titles: WBO super featherweight; WBO lightweight; IBF lightweight; WBC light welterweight; WBC welterweight; WBC welterweight (second time); WBC light middleweight; WBA light middleweight.

Biggest victories: Fernando Vargas, Sept. 14, 2002, KO 11; Ike Quartey, Feb. 13, 1999, W 12; Pernell Whitaker, April 12, 1997, W 12; Julio Cesar Chavez, June 7, 1996, TKO 4; Rafael Ruelas, May 6, 1995, KO 2.

Biggest losses: Bernard Hopkins, Sept. 18, 2004, KO 8; Felix Trinidad, Sept. 18, 1999, L 12; Shane Mosley, June 17, 2000, L 12; Shane Mosley, Sept. 13, 2003, L 12; Floyd Mayweather,May 5, 2007, L 12.


PACQUIAO

The essentials

Age: 29

Height: 5-6½

Hometown: General Santos City, Philippines

Turned pro: 1995

Record: 47-3-2 (35 knockouts)

Trainer: Freddie Roach

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 1 pound-for-pound; No. 2 lightweight

Titles: WBC flyweight; IBF super bantamweight; WBC super featherweight; WBC lightweight.

Biggest victories: Ledwaba, Jan. 6, 2001, TKO 6; Marco Antonio Barrera, Nov. 15, 2003, TKO 11; Erik Morales, Jan. 21, 2006, TKO 10; Barrera, Oct. 6, 2007, W 12; Juan Manuel Marquez, March 15, 2008 W 12.

Biggest losses: Rustico Torrecamp, Feb. 9, 1996, KO 3; Medgoen Singsurat, Sept. 17, 1999, KO 3; Erik Morales, March 19, 2005, L 12.


HEAD-TO-HEAD

Skills: Pacquiao evolved from a one-dimensional brawler into a very good boxer under the guidance of Freddie Roach. However, De La Hoya, even with his revolving-door approach to trainers over his career, has always been an extremely sound all-around boxer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Power: De La Hoya was once a devastating puncher but his power has diminished as he’s gone up in weight. Of course, he’s going down to 147 for the first time since 2001; he might have extra pop at welterweight. Pacquiao is not a one-punch KO artist but has always been powerful. However, at 147, he won’t be able to hurt De La Hoya.
Edge: De La Hoya

Speed: One thing Pacquiao’s opponents are often surprised by is his remarkable speed. Combine that with his tenacity and improving boxing ability and you get the best fighter in the world. De La Hoya has always been quick-handed; he’s just not as fast as Pacquiao, particularly at 35.
Edge: Pacquiao

Defense: Again, Pacquiao has improved significantly as a boxer. Still, he’s never been particularly difficult to hit. That can be attributed in good part to his aggressive fighting style. De La Hoya has always put a premium on safety, one reason he’s lasted so long in the sport. He knows how to avoid punches.
Edge: De La Hoya

Experience: Both fighters have been at the top of the sport for a generation of fighters, fighting in a combined 40 major world title fights (De La Hoya 29, Pacquiao 11). Nothing phases either one of them. De La Hoya gets a slight edge because he’s been a major player a bit longer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Chin: Neither fighter has been hurt many times. De La Hoya has been stung a few times by punches to his head but was never in serious danger. Only Bernard Hopkins has stopped him, with a body shot. Pacquiao was stopped twice early in his career but has taken some huge shots in his prime without a disastrous result.
Edge: De La Hoya

Conditioning: Freddie Roach, who has been around boxing for several decades, said he’s never seen a fighter train harder than Pacquiao. He could probably fight 20 rounds if he had to. De La Hoya has had periods in his career when he didn’t train as hard as he should have, which might explain his tendency to fade late in fights, but he seems to be extremely serious about this fight.
Edge: Pacquiao

Wear-and-tear: De La Hoya, 35, has never taken a beating but appears to have declined at least somewhat after 30 years of boxing. Pacquiao, 29, has been in many wars but seems to be as fresh as ever.
Edge: Pacquiao

Corner: Both trainers garner tremendous respect. Nacho Beristain has trained a number of champions from Mexico, making him a legend in his country. And Freddie Roach, too, has worked with many big-name champions. Clearly, he’s at the top of his game. Pacquiao gets the edge here because he’s worked long term with Roach; this is De La Hoya’s first fight with Beristain.
Edge: Pacquiao

Outcome: Ask yourself: What was your first reaction when you heard this fight would take place? Answer: Pacquiao is too small. That is the most-significant factor in the fight. Pacquiao will attack and land his share of punches. However, in the end, if De La Hoya fights a smart fight – stay outside, wrap Pacquiao up when he gets inside – he’ll wear the smaller man down.
Prediction: De La Hoya KO 10


now i just bolded the selected text, that's the big IF

ODLH should now worry about his conditioning, wear-and-tear, whatever... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

to break down...

Speed: MP, no doubt about that...
Experience: ODLH, coz he's been in boxing for a long time (16 years)
Power: ODLH, but he has to worry about his left shoulder ailment... :shock:
Skill: i give ODLH a slight edge, coz, you know.... :D
Footwork: MP, simply hes fast...
Conditioning & Stamina: MP
Height & Reach: ODLH...

Peace... :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace:


See at the end of the day it will come down to who can take a shot? delahoya should be able to take pacman's best shot. How about pacman? can he take delahoya's best shot?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:35 am 
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muay wrote:
Why would I be surprised of an ODLH win?


He's the bigger fighter!!


exactly !! but i am still hoping and
routing for manny to win.


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If you're clever enough, then you'll see that come fight night. Understood? Then, SHOUT "TO HELL WITH DREAM MATCH" @^%%$#&&*! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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lbcya99 wrote:
My 2 Cents wrote:
lbcya99 wrote:
http://www.thering-online.com/blog/90/de_la_hoyapacquiao_head_to_head/
De La Hoya-Pacquiao: Head to Head
By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!
OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. MANNY PACQUIAO


DE LA HOYA

The essentials

Age: 35

Height: 5-10½

Hometown: Los Angeles

Turned pro: 1992

Record: 39-5 (30 knockouts)

Trainer: Nacho Beristain

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 3 junior middleweight

Titles: WBO super featherweight; WBO lightweight; IBF lightweight; WBC light welterweight; WBC welterweight; WBC welterweight (second time); WBC light middleweight; WBA light middleweight.

Biggest victories: Fernando Vargas, Sept. 14, 2002, KO 11; Ike Quartey, Feb. 13, 1999, W 12; Pernell Whitaker, April 12, 1997, W 12; Julio Cesar Chavez, June 7, 1996, TKO 4; Rafael Ruelas, May 6, 1995, KO 2.

Biggest losses: Bernard Hopkins, Sept. 18, 2004, KO 8; Felix Trinidad, Sept. 18, 1999, L 12; Shane Mosley, June 17, 2000, L 12; Shane Mosley, Sept. 13, 2003, L 12; Floyd Mayweather,May 5, 2007, L 12.


PACQUIAO

The essentials

Age: 29

Height: 5-6½

Hometown: General Santos City, Philippines

Turned pro: 1995

Record: 47-3-2 (35 knockouts)

Trainer: Freddie Roach

Fight-by-fight: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

The Ring rating: No. 1 pound-for-pound; No. 2 lightweight

Titles: WBC flyweight; IBF super bantamweight; WBC super featherweight; WBC lightweight.

Biggest victories: Ledwaba, Jan. 6, 2001, TKO 6; Marco Antonio Barrera, Nov. 15, 2003, TKO 11; Erik Morales, Jan. 21, 2006, TKO 10; Barrera, Oct. 6, 2007, W 12; Juan Manuel Marquez, March 15, 2008 W 12.

Biggest losses: Rustico Torrecamp, Feb. 9, 1996, KO 3; Medgoen Singsurat, Sept. 17, 1999, KO 3; Erik Morales, March 19, 2005, L 12.


HEAD-TO-HEAD

Skills: Pacquiao evolved from a one-dimensional brawler into a very good boxer under the guidance of Freddie Roach. However, De La Hoya, even with his revolving-door approach to trainers over his career, has always been an extremely sound all-around boxer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Power: De La Hoya was once a devastating puncher but his power has diminished as he’s gone up in weight. Of course, he’s going down to 147 for the first time since 2001; he might have extra pop at welterweight. Pacquiao is not a one-punch KO artist but has always been powerful. However, at 147, he won’t be able to hurt De La Hoya.
Edge: De La Hoya

Speed: One thing Pacquiao’s opponents are often surprised by is his remarkable speed. Combine that with his tenacity and improving boxing ability and you get the best fighter in the world. De La Hoya has always been quick-handed; he’s just not as fast as Pacquiao, particularly at 35.
Edge: Pacquiao

Defense: Again, Pacquiao has improved significantly as a boxer. Still, he’s never been particularly difficult to hit. That can be attributed in good part to his aggressive fighting style. De La Hoya has always put a premium on safety, one reason he’s lasted so long in the sport. He knows how to avoid punches.
Edge: De La Hoya

Experience: Both fighters have been at the top of the sport for a generation of fighters, fighting in a combined 40 major world title fights (De La Hoya 29, Pacquiao 11). Nothing phases either one of them. De La Hoya gets a slight edge because he’s been a major player a bit longer.
Edge: De La Hoya

Chin: Neither fighter has been hurt many times. De La Hoya has been stung a few times by punches to his head but was never in serious danger. Only Bernard Hopkins has stopped him, with a body shot. Pacquiao was stopped twice early in his career but has taken some huge shots in his prime without a disastrous result.
Edge: De La Hoya

Conditioning: Freddie Roach, who has been around boxing for several decades, said he’s never seen a fighter train harder than Pacquiao. He could probably fight 20 rounds if he had to. De La Hoya has had periods in his career when he didn’t train as hard as he should have, which might explain his tendency to fade late in fights, but he seems to be extremely serious about this fight.
Edge: Pacquiao

Wear-and-tear: De La Hoya, 35, has never taken a beating but appears to have declined at least somewhat after 30 years of boxing. Pacquiao, 29, has been in many wars but seems to be as fresh as ever.
Edge: Pacquiao

Corner: Both trainers garner tremendous respect. Nacho Beristain has trained a number of champions from Mexico, making him a legend in his country. And Freddie Roach, too, has worked with many big-name champions. Clearly, he’s at the top of his game. Pacquiao gets the edge here because he’s worked long term with Roach; this is De La Hoya’s first fight with Beristain.
Edge: Pacquiao

Outcome: Ask yourself: What was your first reaction when you heard this fight would take place? Answer: Pacquiao is too small. That is the most-significant factor in the fight. Pacquiao will attack and land his share of punches. However, in the end, if De La Hoya fights a smart fight – stay outside, wrap Pacquiao up when he gets inside – he’ll wear the smaller man down.
Prediction: De La Hoya KO 10


now i just bolded the selected text, that's the big IF

ODLH should now worry about his conditioning, wear-and-tear, whatever... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

to break down...

Speed: MP, no doubt about that...
Experience: ODLH, coz he's been in boxing for a long time (16 years)
Power: ODLH, but he has to worry about his left shoulder ailment... :shock:
Skill: i give ODLH a slight edge, coz, you know.... :D
Footwork: MP, simply hes fast...
Conditioning & Stamina: MP
Height & Reach: ODLH...

Peace... :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace:


See at the end of the day it will come down to who can take a shot? delahoya should be able to take pacman's best shot. How about pacman? can he take delahoya's best shot?


MP can take ODLH's best shots, HOPEFULLY 8)

peace out :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:21 pm 
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Erap wrote:
Why would it be a surprise? ODLH is favored 2-1 to win this fight.



....That should have ended this discussion, bro Erap.....but didn't...
:lol: :lol:

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I won't be surprised...if he wins, he has the power and the ability to Ko Pacman inside 6 rds. but i won't be surprised either if Pacman would Koed him or out-boxed him the entire 12 rds. 8) 8)


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Dr. LOVE wrote:
Some Hispanics believe that the fight is fixed, remember that there was a lengthy time of negotiations (money matters obviously) for this fight just to happen. These people believe that Manny has been paid already to drop the fight or in other words "scripted" fight. A defeat to Oscar is more damaging than to Manny in my opinon and its not a remote possibility that this fight is already pre-determined fight.

pfft.. you're just trying to come up wit an excuse if ever manny loss.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:59 pm 
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Unreasonable as it is, I want manny to win. ODLH was too sleazy in picking this fight.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:04 pm 
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Erap wrote:
Why would it be a surprise? ODLH is favored 2-1 to win this fight.


Exactly. And, if Manny wins it will be an upset.


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