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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:04 am 
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With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:08 am 
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in boxing, everything is possible... Tyson vs Douglas, the odds is 20:1, what happened?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:10 am 
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patrick ryan wrote:
in boxing, everything is possible... Tyson vs Douglas, the odds is 20:1, what happened?



42:1

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:19 am 
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estongis wrote:
patrick ryan wrote:
in boxing, everything is possible... Tyson vs Douglas, the odds is 20:1, what happened?



42:1


yeah in boxing, everything is possible...Hatton might as well bet his total fight purse on Pac...now that sure is winning..

beting line opens at 4-1 in favor of pac..

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:21 am 
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MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---



the question should be:

it is really possible for pacquiao to win?

• hatton is stronger than pac, having KOed bigger guys
• hatton chin @ 140 is ROCK SOLID! this was the guy who just laughed at the powerful blows of the strongest fighters at 140 (p4p elite kostya and urango)
• hattons left lead followed by a right hook is a class of its own. its quick enough to give anybody trouble
• pac has never faced anybody who cut off the ring as brilliant as hatton
• hattons footwork was superb. even slick boxer malignaggi was a total failure in keeping hatton at bay
• hatton was the better infighter between the two

Q: if hatton was able to close the gap between him and mayweather, what pac could offer to keep hatton off him?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:31 am 
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estongis wrote:
MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---



the question should be:

it is really possible for pacquiao to win?

• hatton is stronger than pac, having KOed bigger guys
• hatton chin @ 140 is ROCK SOLID! this was the guy who just laughed at the powerful blows of the strongest fighters at 140 (p4p elite kostya and urango)
• hattons left lead followed by a right hook is a class of its own. its quick enough to give anybody trouble
• pac has never faced anybody who cut off the ring as brilliant as hatton
• hattons footwork was superb. even slick boxer malignaggi was a total failure in keeping hatton at bay
• hatton was the better infighter between the two

Q: if hatton was able to close the gap between him and mayweather, what pac could offer to keep hatton off him?


Then after PAC destroys Hatton you will be the first one to claim that Hatton is past his prime, right? Or maybe Hatton is just a shell of himself!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:34 am 
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estongis wrote:
MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---



the question should be:

it is really possible for pacquiao to win?

• hatton is stronger than pac, having KOed bigger guys
• hatton chin @ 140 is ROCK SOLID! this was the guy who just laughed at the powerful blows of the strongest fighters at 140 (p4p elite kostya and urango)
• hattons left lead followed by a right hook is a class of its own. its quick enough to give anybody trouble
• pac has never faced anybody who cut off the ring as brilliant as hatton
• hattons footwork was superb. even slick boxer malignaggi was a total failure in keeping hatton at bay
• hatton was the better infighter between the two

Q: if hatton was able to close the gap between him and mayweather, what pac could offer to keep hatton off him?


Anything is possible in boxing, as in any other sport. But realistically, Pac will be favored in this fight. And rightly so. What makes you think Hatton is stronger than Pac? Just as what other said about Diaz and Dela Hoya being stronger?

Even Dela Hoya will admit, it's a whole different story once you're in the ring with Manny.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:36 am 
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estongis wrote:
MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---



the question should be:

it is really possible for pacquiao to win?

• hatton is stronger than pac, having KOed bigger guys
• hatton chin @ 140 is ROCK SOLID! this was the guy who just laughed at the powerful blows of the strongest fighters at 140 (p4p elite kostya and urango)
• hattons left lead followed by a right hook is a class of its own. its quick enough to give anybody trouble
• pac has never faced anybody who cut off the ring as brilliant as hatton
• hattons footwork was superb. even slick boxer malignaggi was a total failure in keeping hatton at bay
• hatton was the better infighter between the two

Q: if hatton was able to close the gap between him and mayweather, what pac could offer to keep hatton off him?


Dela hoya was able to close the GAP with Mayweather, look at what Pacquiao had offered Dela hoya.


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Both could score on their respective ways of fighting. Happen what may, I'll go for Manny who will outclass Hitman because of his DISCIPLINE AND DEDICATION with a noble cause for the glory of our country, kababayans and fans around the world. That's what we always know about him which makes his fighting spirit unbeatable to tackle any storm. Realistically speaking, what I've written above, are the things that DIFFERENTIATE him from Hitman and the rest of his opponents. Once Hitman tastes the flavor of the Philippine San Miguel beer personally delivered by our Pacman, he'll surely surrender without a doubt.. Just my own thoughts. :thunder: :idea2: :thunder:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:47 am 
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MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---


Most of the writers that are praising Manny now, are the ones that have been proven wrong so many times by Manny.......That's why they are now for Manny, to least make one right opinion for Manny while he is not retired..........

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:00 pm 
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It's Hatton's turn to be underestimated.

Why isn't it possible for him to win? Perhaps, because he lost to Mayweather? Hatton was competitive on a round by round basis, even though he was losing almost every round to Mayweather.

People who tend to underestimate him are the ones who have only seen 1 or 2 fights of him. Unless you are totally clueless about his fights with Tszyu, Maussa, Castillo, Tackie etc., you'll think Hatton is a hopeless case.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:22 pm 
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atemo wrote:
estongis wrote:
MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---



the question should be:

it is really possible for pacquiao to win?

• hatton is stronger than pac, having KOed bigger guys
• hatton chin @ 140 is ROCK SOLID! this was the guy who just laughed at the powerful blows of the strongest fighters at 140 (p4p elite kostya and urango)
• hattons left lead followed by a right hook is a class of its own. its quick enough to give anybody trouble
• pac has never faced anybody who cut off the ring as brilliant as hatton
• hattons footwork was superb. even slick boxer malignaggi was a total failure in keeping hatton at bay
• hatton was the better infighter between the two

Q: if hatton was able to close the gap between him and mayweather, what pac could offer to keep hatton off him?


Then after PAC destroys Hatton you will be the first one to claim that Hatton is past his prime, right? Or maybe Hatton is just a shell of himself!


no. if pac beats hatton (destroy? that would be impossible), hed be easily top 10-15 goat.

btw, i think you didnt anwer my Q

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:25 pm 
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Pac_fan101 wrote:
estongis wrote:
MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---



the question should be:

it is really possible for pacquiao to win?

• hatton is stronger than pac, having KOed bigger guys
• hatton chin @ 140 is ROCK SOLID! this was the guy who just laughed at the powerful blows of the strongest fighters at 140 (p4p elite kostya and urango)
• hattons left lead followed by a right hook is a class of its own. its quick enough to give anybody trouble
• pac has never faced anybody who cut off the ring as brilliant as hatton
• hattons footwork was superb. even slick boxer malignaggi was a total failure in keeping hatton at bay
• hatton was the better infighter between the two

Q: if hatton was able to close the gap between him and mayweather, what pac could offer to keep hatton off him?


Anything is possible in boxing, as in any other sport. But realistically, Pac will be favored in this fight. And rightly so. What makes you think Hatton is stronger than Pac? Just as what other said about Diaz and Dela Hoya being stronger?

Even Dela Hoya will admit, it's a whole different story once you're in the ring with Manny.


reality check: who among them has KOed the bigger guys? and also, try to compute their KO-win percentage.

diaz and hoya has nothing to do with the point hatton being the stronger guy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:28 pm 
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LitMakuh wrote:
estongis wrote:
MANG RESTY wrote:
With all the articles and the opinions from boxing experts praising MP for his past performances going through the fight with Hatton,it is given that Pacquaio has the edge.However,I can't help but think otherwise that the praises,the review,the analysis that are given to him at the moment were also given to Dela Hoya prior to his confrontation with Pacquiao.Unfortunately,with all the analysis going for Dela Hoya to expectedly win the fight...THE UNEXPECTED HAPPENED.
Hatton is not Hatton for nothing.Admittedly he is not as fast as Pacquaio but his punches, if it hits it's target can really spell some difference to this fight.
Now,the question arises....
---IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR HATTON TO WIN?---



the question should be:

it is really possible for pacquiao to win?

• hatton is stronger than pac, having KOed bigger guys
• hatton chin @ 140 is ROCK SOLID! this was the guy who just laughed at the powerful blows of the strongest fighters at 140 (p4p elite kostya and urango)
• hattons left lead followed by a right hook is a class of its own. its quick enough to give anybody trouble
• pac has never faced anybody who cut off the ring as brilliant as hatton
• hattons footwork was superb. even slick boxer malignaggi was a total failure in keeping hatton at bay
• hatton was the better infighter between the two

Q: if hatton was able to close the gap between him and mayweather, what pac could offer to keep hatton off him?


Dela hoya was able to close the GAP with Mayweather, look at what Pacquiao had offered Dela hoya.


your comparison is misleading. hatton and hoya are two different fighters.

hattons a beast at 140 who cuts off the ring pretty well

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:42 pm 
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Dela Hoya and Hatton are two different entities.But the Common denominator here is that Dela Hoya Prior to his fight to Pacquaio is the pre fight favorite based on past performances and now we see here Pacquaio on the same shoes with Dela Hoya being the pre fight favorite going to this fight with Hatton.
Can Hatton do the UNEXPECTED just like what Pacquiao did?
Based on the responses here...
IT IS REALLY POSSIBLE...


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