Gil P. Acosta wrote:
Englishbritish wrote: pustahan pa tayo, mas tough pa si Banal kaysa sa iyo or sige even against Ledwaba.
Do you even know Banal's age? 19 pa lng. In the boxing profession, batang-bata pa yan. Some boxers are special because i do agree with you some have either God-given stamina,toughness,durability,speed and power. Some may have both of any of the above.
When it comes to toughness, most don't possess that at the start. They don't learn that, they train their body to be tough. Training can only bring you so far, because that toughness has to be tested. Banal is still very young, so in terms of experience, his body isn't battle-tested enough as compared to much more experienced fighters mostly 21 yrs old and above.
I did not say that I am tough. I am not tough. That is why I chose an MD profession because I ain't tough. Yes, I agree with you that physical toughness can be acquired by training. If you read between the lines, you will notice that I was referring to mental toughness: MIND OVER MATTER, MIND OVER PAIN, THE WILL TO GO ON AGAINST ALL ADVERSITIES. Mental toughness cannot be acquired. It is God given. Either you have it or not. As the great Ali puts it: "He doesn't have it." Banal doesn't have it. I am a pure blooded Filipino. As a Filipino, I love my own. I adore Filipino boxers. I am an avid Pacman fan. As a Filipino, I was mad at Banal for quitting. IT LEAVES A BLACK MARK ON ALL FILIPINO BOXERS. AND SURELY AM I NOT HAPPY TO HEAR IN THE SPORT THAT I LOVE THAT FILIPINOS ARE QUITTERS. IF YOU ARE A FILIPINO, I AM SURE WE SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENTS, RIGHT?
okay2x i get the drift. minus the pepe smith part. Good for you that you are an MD by profession. Be it as it may that you meant mental toughness. For an MD how can you be mad for someon quitting because of the cheapshots he received on the side? For an MD you do know how painful that is for an untrained person, for a trained person they can take much more. For an MD you do know no matter how much you train a young body, 19 yrs old at that, won't be able to withstand that much as compared to say 21-22 yrs old body with much more experience.
If you love a fellow Filipino as your own you say, then how can you get mad at Banal for quitting. Do you know the pain he took all those 10 rounds? For an MD you know how dangerous it is for him to possibly have internal bleeding, organ damage by receiving those body punches no matter how muscular or well trained you are.
It's easy to get mad and disappointed when we are just watching and it's not our own life we are endangering. Cut them some slack, they never had the opportunities we or you have to even think about getting MD as their profession in life.
Mental toughness alone doesn't come from quitting. Do you even know how tough it is for him to quit in front of his home crowd? His spirit is willing but his body has been weakened.
Many will say kaya niya pang itayo yan because he doesn't look groggy. He doesn't look groggy because he didn't suffer from punches to the head. He suffered from bodypunches, and those don't reflect on the boxer's face as compared to punches to the head. Those pain from bodypunches only reflect on the way the boxer receives them. pag tumiklop siya,umatras yun na ibig sabihin nun nasaktan na siya sa body punches, but his face won't look groggy.
By getting up and finishing the fight, he could win on points or he could risk so much at a very young age. It's his life and body at risk, not yours not mine. Don't get angry at him for doing what he thinks is right for his own good. If you were to get angry, direct it at his corner for not being able to advise what to do against what the opponent does.
do i see double standard here? Banal's loss to Concepcion was entirely different to Boom2x's loss against Ponce De Leon but both lost title shots, arguably the most important fights in their young careers. In Banal's case, he lost because he quit, out of exhaustion, while Boom2x lost via a legit punch that sent him to dreamland. If we examine both fights, it is clear that Banal still had a chance to pull a victory but he had no heart to continue after absorbing punishment, which, incidentally is what you get with such a profession as prizefighting, while Boom2x was visibly outclassed and outmatched, and even if the fight continued, there was never any chance of him recovering to pull a victory that night. The glaring difference is that, while Banal had a chance to continue and could have continued if he chose, he simply quit. Bautista on the other hand, simply could not continue anymore, even if he made it clear that he wanted still to continue. In short, Boom2x showed more heart between them two. I can't understand however why Boom2x cannot seem to find enough justification for that loss the way Banal enjoys being defended now by some people. And, equally important is the fact that Boom2x suffered a defeat against a certified champ while Banal's opponent was untested commodity and Boom2x even had to go up in weight to face Ponce De Leon. By all indications, there seem to be a double standard in the way some people are treating our fighters after a heatrbreaking loss. Can somebody explain this?