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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:43 am 
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To bible believers: The emphasis I see in most bible professing groups is salvation. Salvation is just but a part, which became necessary though expected from the start, of the bigger project God intended when he fashioned man from the dust of the ground. God' purpose still stands which is to make man in his image, according to his likeness.

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:51 am 
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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
To bible believers: The emphasis I see in most bible professing groups is salvation. Salvation is just but a part, which became necessary though expected from the start, of the bigger project God intended when he fashioned man from the dust of the ground. God' purpose still stands which is to make man in his image, according to his likeness.

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;

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of course it is epi. but since the fall of man, one cant have the exact image God intended man to be if one doesn't come to Him in full obedience. salvation is the end product of it which means man fulfilling the full image God - the incorruptible and holy image that is achieved afterlife. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:02 am 
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Man is weak,
if God's purpose is for man to be with Him in eternity
why not just short cut the process?
What is the real purpose of creating man in human form?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:16 am 
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shadow warrior wrote:
Man is weak,
if God's purpose is for man to be with Him in eternity
why not just short cut the process?
What is the real purpose of creating man in human form?


actually, God made it a short cut already in the garden of Eden. but since man's fall-short by sinning against God's commandment, God gave man a chance through what we do in life - our choice to do His will or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:14 pm 
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boxingfan529 wrote:
of course it is epi. but since the fall of man, one cant have the exact image God intended man to be if one doesn't come to Him in full obedience. salvation is the end product of it which means man fulfilling the full image God - the incorruptible and holy image that is achieved afterlife. :)

:)

Since you are fund of it, what is it that you emphasize in your sharing? Salvation? or creation.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:21 pm 
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shadow warrior wrote:
Man is weak,
if God's purpose is for man to be with Him in eternity
why not just short cut the process?
What is the real purpose of creating man in human form?

"the real purpose of creating man in human form, which is mortal, is so that God can just dispose of him if he later on decides he does not want to be ruled by God. Just like a potter who discards an earthen vase if its quality does not meet the standard set.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:22 pm 
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boxingfan529 wrote:
actually, God made it a short cut already in the garden of Eden.

:)

bf, don't you believe God is still creating man at this time?


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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
shadow warrior wrote:
Man is weak,
if God's purpose is for man to be with Him in eternity
why not just short cut the process?
What is the real purpose of creating man in human form?

"the real purpose of creating man in human form, which is mortal, is so that God can just dispose of him if he later on decides he does not want to be ruled by God. Just like a potter who discards an earthen vase if its quality does not meet the standard set.


You obviously know that that is flawed logic if you god claims to be all-knowing. Do you know of any potter that claims to be all knowing - knowing even the future?


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god created man in his likeness? :shock: is this just the god of humans or the god of everything?

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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
shadow warrior wrote:
Man is weak,
if God's purpose is for man to be with Him in eternity
why not just short cut the process?
What is the real purpose of creating man in human form?

"the real purpose of creating man in human form, which is mortal, is so that God can just dispose of him if he later on decides he does not want to be ruled by God. Just like a potter who discards an earthen vase if its quality does not meet the standard set.


A master potter won't produce a substandard creation. :shock:

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boxingfan529 wrote:
shadow warrior wrote:
Man is weak,
if God's purpose is for man to be with Him in eternity
why not just short cut the process?
What is the real purpose of creating man in human form?


actually, God made it a short cut already in the garden of Eden. but since man's fall-short by sinning against God's commandment, God gave man a chance through what we do in life - our choice to do His will or not.

:)


How did you know?
What is the original plan, then?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:01 pm 
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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
To bible believers: The emphasis I see in most bible professing groups is salvation. Salvation is just but a part, which became necessary though expected from the start, of the bigger project God intended when he fashioned man from the dust of the ground. God' purpose still stands which is to make man in his image, according to his likeness.

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;

Non-bible believers may also comment. :)


Mang Epi, Gen. 1:26 talks about God's creation of man in His image and likeness. I have some questions:

1. When man and woman committed the sin, did they lose their "eternal life"? And if YES, this "eternal life" is on earth only, as there was no "death" yet for man (no sin has been committed)? For it is written:
Genesis 2:16-17
16 The LORD God gave man this order: "You are free to eat from any of the trees of the garden
17 except the tree of knowledge of good and bad. From that tree you shall not eat; the moment you eat from it you are surely doomed to die."

2. When Jesus Christ died and resurrected, He redeemed man of this sin. Since JC already saved us of Adam and Eve's sin, why do we still have no "eternal life"?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:40 pm 
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insoyuz72 wrote:
god created man in his likeness? :shock: is this just the god of humans or the god of everything?

The bible message is that God is creating man in his image. Man can believe it or just dismiss it as nonsense.

While he is God of all creation by virtue of his being creator, many do not recognize him as such.


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shadow warrior wrote:
What is the real purpose of creating man in human form?

to be like my Master who is in his abode now in Hunghang Loka. :D

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dd44 wrote:
You obviously know that that is flawed logic if you god claims to be all-knowing. Do you know of any potter that claims to be all knowing - knowing even the future?

Anybody can make claims and the God of the bible can make no less.

The comparison is in the activity of making a product not the "all-knowing" aspect.


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