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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:38 pm 
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visayanboy, totoo po bang ubod kayo ng yabang? :biglaugh:


bro, parang inis na inis ka sa ts ah. :D :) 8)


not necessarily. much as i want to have some debates on the boxing topic started by visayanboy, i find it useless. the way visayanboy make a reply on comments on his thread is too childish. parang sirang plaka. so i decided just to add a little spice and make him "inis" :biglaugh:

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Romy Nabas wrote:
pan_ni_pakyaw wrote:
Romy Nabas wrote:
visayanboy, totoo po bang ubod kayo ng yabang? :biglaugh:


bro, parang inis na inis ka sa ts ah. :D :) 8)


not necessarily. much as i want to have some debates on the boxing topic started by visayanboy, i find it useless. the way visayanboy make a reply on comments on his thread is too childish. parang sirang plaka. so i decided just to add a little spice and make him "inis" :biglaugh:


we love VB. we love to expose his empty skull. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:41 pm 
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VB, until when shall we suffer from your posts?
Pls provide timeline.. :lol:

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VB, until when shall we suffer from your posts?
Pls provide timeline.. :lol:


Gantt Chart bro. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:09 pm 
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Are all these your personal observations or taken from you 160 back issues of Ring Magazine?
If yes, please acknowledge your source or link.


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Bantigue (2010). "I Will Not be Caught Sleeping Again When God Grants Wisdom To People." Damaguete Journal of Human Kinetics. Silahis Press, pp 105-112.

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Sir Helven, part from the 160 RingMag and some are the feedback I got from SportsBar in Vegas, God Bless I got To go 10pm na rito..


HA! namamasada ka pa until 10pm? ang hirap kumita ngayon pre no? :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:43 pm 
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Welcome to the MARIANG PALAD group bro! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am a member of the Silahis 10 and Alilang Kanin. :lol: :lol: :lol:



how about alilang tutong?(wtf is this anyway?) :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Freddie Roach, the American born Irish who is the BWAA 4 times trainer of the year, had committed lots of foolish mistakes as the head trainer of PACMAN.

The Blunders of Freddie Roach,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
1.Month of August 2003, Freedie first choice for PAC opponent after he won the fight against Lucero was the rugged Mexican Boxer Ayala, bc he was afraid to match PAC to BARRERA and he insisted that PAC needed a tune up fight in the feather division. The late Mr. Nazario was the manager then of Pacman and he didn't heed the advised of Freddie so BARRERA and PAC fought, that fight was the JUMPSTART of PAC boxing carreer

2.Year 2004 to2007, Mr.Roach refused to let PACMAN fighr the Feather Champ In Jin Chi and Valero Superfeather champ for the Featherweight and Superfeather belts, these 2 fights according to BObArum would be BLOCKBUSTER bc it will be held in MACAO, the GAMBLING MECCA in ASIA and
gamblers Money will be pouring in Macao, PAC can easily win the 2 Crowns with a big Rewards and perhaps he will not experience the humiliation that he received from JUANITA, who went to the Phil.to let him sign the Return Bout Contractt and in Local TV station telling everyone that he won the fight.

3.April 2008, The Manager of Juan Diaz was challenging PAC to meet his Undefeated, Volume puncher, and Relentless WBA,IBF,and WBO Lightweight Champion the BABY BULL, but Freddie Declined ( PAC can easily knockout the BaBy Bull) and he chose David Diaz. If Team Pacquiao didn't refuse the challenged of Juan Diaz, Juanita will not go up in the 135 lbs weight bc PAC is the lightweight Champ and PAC won't fight him then of course he will not be Lightweight Champion so Floyd JR. will not fight Juanita bc he is only a SuperFeather champion and he can't BRAGs for what he is Bragging now he is better fighter than PAC bc he gave Juanita a boxing Lesson then the result less money for FloydJR.

4.December 2009, a month after PAC captured the WBO WELTER, manager of Yuri Foreman challenged Team Pacquiao for a PAC vs.Foreman in LasVegas and also Shane Mosley keep on Barking to Team Pacquiao for a Blockbuster fight, but Mr.Roach declined and went to Clottey. IF PAC fought Foreman he is now the WBA LightMiddleWeight Champ and he can defend his Lightmiddle Title to MARGA ( Mexican Money) or if he fought Shane Mosley, Floyd can't brags that he got a fight (Floyd/Mosley is the 2nd Highest Non-heavyweight fight ) that is a big Pay per View sales and 1.4 million TV revenues, and PacMan will be ahead to Floyd in Forbes Listing of Boxers earnings.






Yeah, damn Roach blundered. Manny could have been a millionaire if it wasnt for Roach's blunders. Manny could have been world-wide famous, but Roach blundered.
Manny could have run for political office and win if it wasn't for Roach's blunders.
Manny could have reach the Time Magazine cover but Roach blundered that too.



Manny could have been one of the most influential person in the entire planet, but noooooo, Roach blundered that too.
Manny could have been rich enought to make the Forbe's list of richest athlete. Roach blundered that to for Manny.
Manny could have been a household name in the USA and the whole world, Roach blundered on that too.



Manny could have been going to late night talk show on TV and endear himself to the American public if it wasn't for Roach's blundering act.
Manny could have possible be fighter of the decade, a very prestigious award that Roach blundered.




Manny could have been fighter of the year on multiple occasions, but thanks to Roach's blunders he is not.







ROACH HAS GOT TO GO! HE RUINED MANNY'S CAREER!









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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:53 pm 
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TS, it seems that you're alone into believing that "blunders" thing about Roach :D

Thing is, if Pac never had the chance to work with Roach I honestly doubt Pac will achieve what he has achieved during thier decade partnership.

As Pacfan, we have to acknowledge Roach as Pac's indespensable partner in attaining all that accolades he recieved. The last thing you could do is to degrade him as what you've started in your thread..

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:24 am 
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[quote="ladykiller"]TS, it seems that you're alone into believing that "blunders" thing about Roach :D

Mr. LadyKiller, as Paclander to Paclander kindly answer these?
The Blunders of Freddie Roach,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
.."Is this wrong?"....Month of August 2003, Freedie first choice for PAC opponent after he won the fight against Lucero was the rugged Mexican Boxer Ayala, bc he was afraid to match PAC to BARRERA and he insisted that PAC needed a tune up fight in the feather division. The late Mr. Nazario was the manager then of Pacman and he didn't heed the advised of Freddie so BARRERA and PAC fought, that fight was the JUMPSTART of PAC boxing carreer

"Is this wrong?"...Year 2004 to2007, Mr.Roach refused to let PACMAN fighr the Feather Champ In Jin Chi and Valero Superfeather champ for the Featherweight and Superfeather belts, these 2 fights according to BObArum would be BLOCKBUSTER bc it will be held in MACAO, the GAMBLING MECCA in ASIA and
gamblers Money will be pouring in Macao, PAC can easily win the 2 Crowns with a big Rewards and perhaps he will not experience the humiliation that he received from JUANITA, who went to the Phil.to let him sign the Return Bout Contractt and in Local TV station telling everyone that he won the fight.

"Is this wrong?....April 2008, The Manager of Juan Diaz was challenging PAC to meet his Undefeated, Volume puncher, and Relentless WBA,IBF,and WBO Lightweight Champion the BABY BULL, but Freddie Declined ( PAC can easily knockout the BaBy Bull) and he chose David Diaz. If Team Pacquiao didn't refuse the challenged of Juan Diaz, Juanita will not go up in the 135 lbs weight bc PAC is the lightweight Champ and PAC won't fight him then of course he will not be Lightweight Champion so Floyd JR. will not fight Juanita bc he is only a SuperFeather champion and he can't BRAGs for what he is Bragging now he is better fighter than PAC bc he gave Juanita a boxing Lesson then the result less money for FloydJR.

Is this wrong also?...December 2009, a month after PAC captured the WBO WELTER, manager of Yuri Foreman challenged Team Pacquiao for a PAC vs.Foreman in LasVegas and also Shane Mosley keep on Barking to Team Pacquiao for a Blockbuster fight, but Mr.Roach declined and went to Clottey. IF PAC fought Foreman he is now the WBA LightMiddleWeight Champ and he can defend his Lightmiddle Title to MARGA ( Mexican Money) or if he fought Shane Mosley, Floyd can't brags that he got a fight (Floyd/Mosley is the 2nd Highest Non-heavyweight fight ) that is a big Pay per View sales and 1.4 million TV revenues, and PacMan will be ahead to Floyd in Forbes Listing of Boxers earnings...All of these taht I posted came from my collection of 160 back issues of RingMagazine....If you think these are wrong, i'll still respect your opinion..God Bless you..by the way are you anti-catchweight or pro ?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:52 am 
visayanboy wrote:
ladykiller wrote:
TS, it seems that you're alone into believing that "blunders" thing about Roach :D

Mr. LadyKiller, as Paclander to Paclander kindly answer these?
The Blunders of Freddie Roach,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
.."Is this wrong?"....Month of August 2003, Freedie first choice for PAC opponent after he won the fight against Lucero was the rugged Mexican Boxer Ayala, bc he was afraid to match PAC to BARRERA and he insisted that PAC needed a tune up fight in the feather division. The late Mr. Nazario was the manager then of Pacman and he didn't heed the advised of Freddie so BARRERA and PAC fought, that fight was the JUMPSTART of PAC boxing carreer
Yes it is wrong..... how can you count it as a blunder by Roach, when the fight happened anyways? If he insisted and there was no Pac-barrera fight then it is his blunder. But since the fight happened and Roach still trained Pacquiao, and they won, that is not a blunder.
"Is this wrong?"...Year 2004 to2007, Mr.Roach refused to let PACMAN fighr the Feather Champ In Jin Chi and Valero Superfeather champ for the Featherweight and Superfeather belts, these 2 fights according to BObArum would be BLOCKBUSTER bc it will be held in MACAO, the GAMBLING MECCA in ASIA and
gamblers Money will be pouring in Macao, PAC can easily win the 2 Crowns with a big Rewards and perhaps he will not experience the humiliation that he received from JUANITA, who went to the Phil.to let him sign the Return Bout Contractt and in Local TV station telling everyone that he won the fight.
Yes it is wrong... how can you even say he was humiliated by JMM? He knocked the guy 4 times in two fights, draw the 1st one due to judge error in scoring, and won the second fight by split decision. You keep rhapsodizing the in jin chi and valero fights that never happened, even blaming roach for it. But what you need to realize is: those fight would never have happened in the US. Valero is not licensed to fight in the US due to a head injury, and in jin chi is unknown in the US. Team pacquiao's focus after the barerra fight was to showcase Pacquiao to US boxing fans via HBO. He would not be as big today if he continued fighting outside the US. So forcing him to waste two or three fights outside the US would have been the blunder.
"Is this wrong?....April 2008, The Manager of Juan Diaz was challenging PAC to meet his Undefeated, Volume puncher, and Relentless WBA,IBF,and WBO Lightweight Champion the BABY BULL, but Freddie Declined ( PAC can easily knockout the BaBy Bull) and he chose David Diaz. If Team Pacquiao didn't refuse the challenged of Juan Diaz, Juanita will not go up in the 135 lbs weight bc PAC is the lightweight Champ and PAC won't fight him then of course he will not be Lightweight Champion so Floyd JR. will not fight Juanita bc he is only a SuperFeather champion and he can't BRAGs for what he is Bragging now he is better fighter than PAC bc he gave Juanita a boxing Lesson then the result less money for FloydJR.
Yes this is sooo wrong.... your logic (if you have any) is convoluted...... DID YOU JUST ACTUALLY SAY THAT IT'S ROACH's BLUNDER, that Floyd is a much bigger and better fighter than a smaller and blown up JMM??? Where's the logic in that??
Is this wrong also?...December 2009, a month after PAC captured the WBO WELTER, manager of Yuri Foreman challenged Team Pacquiao for a PAC vs.Foreman in LasVegas and also Shane Mosley keep on Barking to Team Pacquiao for a Blockbuster fight, but Mr.Roach declined and went to Clottey. IF PAC fought Foreman he is now the WBA LightMiddleWeight Champ and he can defend his Lightmiddle Title to MARGA ( Mexican Money) or if he fought Shane Mosley, Floyd can't brags that he got a fight (Floyd/Mosley is the 2nd Highest Non-heavyweight fight ) that is a big Pay per View sales and 1.4 million TV revenues, and PacMan will be ahead to Floyd in Forbes Listing of Boxers earnings...All of these taht I posted came from my collection of 160 back issues of RingMagazine....If you think these are wrong, i'll still respect your opinion..God Bless you..by the way are you anti-catchweight or pro ?
It was Pacquiao who said that he didn't want to fight Foreman, not just Roach, so why is this solely Roach's blunder? You are also forgetting your boxing history... maybe your ring mag subsription ended last December 2009....He couldn't have fought Mosley after Cotto, because Mosley was already scheduled to fight Berto.... when the Haiti earthquake happened and Mosley-Berto cancelled at the end of January, the Clottey-Pacquiao fight was already set, so no way for Mosley to come in and take a fight with Pacman. So how is it Roach's blunders?


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genetophile wrote:
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VB, until when shall we suffer from your posts?
Pls provide timeline.. :lol:


Gantt Chart bro. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I bet he don't know how to make it using excel.. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:50 am 
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TS, it seems that you're alone into believing that "blunders" thing about Roach :D

Mr. LadyKiller, as Paclander to Paclander kindly answer these?
The Blunders of Freddie Roach,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
.."Is this wrong?"....Month of August 2003, Freedie first choice for PAC opponent after he won the fight against Lucero was the rugged Mexican Boxer Ayala, bc he was afraid to match PAC to BARRERA and he insisted that PAC needed a tune up fight in the feather division. The late Mr. Nazario was the manager then of Pacman and he didn't heed the advised of Freddie so BARRERA and PAC fought, that fight was the JUMPSTART of PAC boxing carreer
Yes it is wrong..... how can you count it as a blunder by Roach, when the fight happened anyways? If he insisted and there was no Pac-barrera fight then it is his blunder. But since the fight happened and Roach still trained Pacquiao, and they won, that is not a blunder.
"Is this wrong?"...Year 2004 to2007, Mr.Roach refused to let PACMAN fighr the Feather Champ In Jin Chi and Valero Superfeather champ for the Featherweight and Superfeather belts, these 2 fights according to BObArum would be BLOCKBUSTER bc it will be held in MACAO, the GAMBLING MECCA in ASIA and
gamblers Money will be pouring in Macao, PAC can easily win the 2 Crowns with a big Rewards and perhaps he will not experience the humiliation that he received from JUANITA, who went to the Phil.to let him sign the Return Bout Contractt and in Local TV station telling everyone that he won the fight.
Yes it is wrong... how can you even say he was humiliated by JMM? He knocked the guy 4 times in two fights, draw the 1st one due to judge error in scoring, and won the second fight by split decision. You keep rhapsodizing the in jin chi and valero fights that never happened, even blaming roach for it. But what you need to realize is: those fight would never have happened in the US. Valero is not licensed to fight in the US due to a head injury, and in jin chi is unknown in the US. Team pacquiao's focus after the barerra fight was to showcase Pacquiao to US boxing fans via HBO. He would not be as big today if he continued fighting outside the US. So forcing him to waste two or three fights outside the US would have been the blunder.
"Is this wrong?....April 2008, The Manager of Juan Diaz was challenging PAC to meet his Undefeated, Volume puncher, and Relentless WBA,IBF,and WBO Lightweight Champion the BABY BULL, but Freddie Declined ( PAC can easily knockout the BaBy Bull) and he chose David Diaz. If Team Pacquiao didn't refuse the challenged of Juan Diaz, Juanita will not go up in the 135 lbs weight bc PAC is the lightweight Champ and PAC won't fight him then of course he will not be Lightweight Champion so Floyd JR. will not fight Juanita bc he is only a SuperFeather champion and he can't BRAGs for what he is Bragging now he is better fighter than PAC bc he gave Juanita a boxing Lesson then the result less money for FloydJR.
Yes this is sooo wrong.... your logic (if you have any) is convoluted...... DID YOU JUST ACTUALLY SAY THAT IT'S ROACH's BLUNDER, that Floyd is a much bigger and better fighter than a smaller and blown up JMM??? Where's the logic in that??
Is this wrong also?...December 2009, a month after PAC captured the WBO WELTER, manager of Yuri Foreman challenged Team Pacquiao for a PAC vs.Foreman in LasVegas and also Shane Mosley keep on Barking to Team Pacquiao for a Blockbuster fight, but Mr.Roach declined and went to Clottey. IF PAC fought Foreman he is now the WBA LightMiddleWeight Champ and he can defend his Lightmiddle Title to MARGA ( Mexican Money) or if he fought Shane Mosley, Floyd can't brags that he got a fight (Floyd/Mosley is the 2nd Highest Non-heavyweight fight ) that is a big Pay per View sales and 1.4 million TV revenues, and PacMan will be ahead to Floyd in Forbes Listing of Boxers earnings...All of these taht I posted came from my collection of 160 back issues of RingMagazine....If you think these are wrong, i'll still respect your opinion..God Bless you..by the way are you anti-catchweight or pro ?
It was Pacquiao who said that he didn't want to fight Foreman, not just Roach, so why is this solely Roach's blunder? You are also forgetting your boxing history... maybe your ring mag subsription ended last December 2009....He couldn't have fought Mosley after Cotto, because Mosley was already scheduled to fight Berto.... when the Haiti earthquake happened and Mosley-Berto cancelled at the end of January, the Clottey-Pacquiao fight was already set, so no way for Mosley to come in and take a fight with Pacman. So how is it Roach's blunders?

Hoy! i'm not directing this post to you bc you're Genius, I don't want to LAMPASO a Lower weight you have no jewels, wala akong karangalan makuha I prefer adversaries who are good and I can learn from them also, you're mess up, check the dates, boxing regulations and venues, don't "ever ever ever" say that i'm wrong bc what I posted it here came from RingMag and I reviewed all the dates repeat the dates to avoid any mistakes....God bless you...congrats ,you are now a member of MARY de PALM group...Good luck


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Hoy! i'm not directing this post to you bc you're Genius, I don't want to LAMPASO a Lower weight you have no jewels, wala akong karangalan makuha I prefer adversaries who are good and I can learn from them also, you're mess up, check the dates, boxing regulations and venues, don't "ever ever ever" say that i'm wrong bc what I posted it here came from RingMag and I reviewed all the dates repeat the dates to avoid any mistakes....God bless you...congrats ,you are now a member of MARY de PALM group...Good luck


this is the most blunderous reply i've ever read :lol: :lol:

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Hoy! i'm not directing this post to you bc you're Genius, I don't want to LAMPASO a Lower weight you have no jewels, wala akong karangalan makuha I prefer adversaries who are good and I can learn from them also, you're mess up, check the dates, boxing regulations and venues, don't "ever ever ever" say that i'm wrong bc what I posted it here came from RingMag and I reviewed all the dates repeat the dates to avoid any mistakes....God bless you...congrats ,you are now a member of MARY de PALM group...Good luck


this is the most blunderous reply i've ever read :lol: :lol:


IF you call that a reply bro. :biglaugh:
I thought it was just some kind of a random collection of characters. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:15 am 
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genetophile wrote:
Romy Nabas wrote:
visayanboy wrote:
Hoy! i'm not directing this post to you bc you're Genius, I don't want to LAMPASO a Lower weight you have no jewels, wala akong karangalan makuha I prefer adversaries who are good and I can learn from them also, you're mess up, check the dates, boxing regulations and venues, don't "ever ever ever" say that i'm wrong bc what I posted it here came from RingMag and I reviewed all the dates repeat the dates to avoid any mistakes....God bless you...congrats ,you are now a member of MARY de PALM group...Good luck


this is the most blunderous reply i've ever read :lol: :lol:


IF you call that a reply bro. :biglaugh:
I thought it was just some kind of a random collection of characters. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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