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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:13 pm 
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AMATEUR RECORD

Donaire (68-8)

USA National Silver Gloves (1998)
National Junior Olympics (1999)
National USA Tournament (2000)

Rigondeaux (400-12)

7-time Cuban Amateur Champion
2001 World Amateur Champion – Bantamweight
2002 World Cup Champion – Bantamweight
2005 World Amateur Champion –Bantamweight
2005 Bantamweight gold medalist at World Cup
2000 and 2004 Olympic Boxing Champion

PROFESSIONAL RECORD

Donaire (29-1-0, 18KO)

Great Fighters Defeated:
Vic Darchinyan (TKO)
Fernando Montiel (TKO)


Rigondeaux (10-0-0, 8KO)

Great Fighters Defeated: NONE



TALE OF THE TAPE

Donaire

Nickname: The Filipino Flash
Age: 29
Stance: Orthodox / Switch-hitter
Height: 1.7 m (5’7” – Wiki)
Reach: 173 cm (68 in)

Rigondeaux

Nickname: The Jackal
Age: 31
Stance: Southpaw
Height: 1.66 m (5’5” – Wiki)
Reach: 164 cm (65 in)





BOXING STYLE:

Donaire:
Strong Counterpuncher
Fleet-footed (Love to dance or fight toe-to-toe)
Devastating left and powerful right
Throws 1-2 power combos
Awkward at times (unbalanced)
Weak defensive skills (His offense is his defense)
Lacks punch repertoire (Few combos)
Can be beaten by a Salido type of boxer who possesses a granite chin and who swarms and throws a myriad of punches on all angles

Rigondeaux:
Strong Counterpuncher
Planted feet but very agile reflexes (Means he is always looking for a KO)
Devastating left and powerful jab
Throws more power combos at different angles
Very well balanced and good form
Drops his right always to lure opponent
No effective head movement (Always in waiting mode)
Can be beaten by a Donaire type of boxer who dances and circles to his right and has a strong KO punch





VERDICT:

Donaire wins against Rigondeaux

Justification:
Donaire is more mobile, longer reach and proven to beat great fighters like Darchinyan and Montiel. He also showed some solid chins in some of his fights and seemed to be more lion-hearted than Rigondeaux. At almost all things even (fight odds), professional experience will tell the outcome.


What Donaire needs to improve:
1. Punch repertoire
2. Defense
When age catches up on him, his feet will get slow so he needs to improve on other aspects of defense and offense. In defense, he should learn the shoulder and head rolls if he continues to keep his hands low and in offense, add more punch arsenals to his few combos.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:52 pm 
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i don't know but
Rigondeaux is a very dangerous fighter.

Everybody wants to see that to happen.
wala pa man naglalaway na ko.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Icecream wrote:
i don't know but
Rigondeaux is a very dangerous fighter.

Everybody wants to see that to happen.
wala pa man naglalaway na ko.



They say that Donaire is ducking Rigondeaux but to my knowledge, it is Guillermo's pro record that has to be improved yet. He hasn't fought a known fighter yet and now he's barking for the head of Nonits who has proven more in his career than him who is just starting to make a name in pro boxing.

That's the only thing I think is blocking the fight between them. Donaire is heading towards a bigger dream and fight pay...That means he has to conquer heavier weight divisions or bigger fight purses from crowd drawers like Arce even if it means Arce is peanuts to him....

And besides, it's up to Bob Arum to happen...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:20 pm 
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If I were Nonito, I will not fight Rigo because Pacland crabs will surely reincarnate their midget killer taunts :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:24 pm 
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It boils down to money... there is more dough earned fighting popular contenders that have been in professional baking for some time and had racked up some good record like Nishioka, Arce etc....
But competitive wise... Rigondeaux is a force not to be ignored... this guy have more boxing experience than Donaire and had stellar record in his amateur... and he is a strong puncher with not much of a weak point in his fighting style....
Meanwhile Nonito is sometimes awkward... and look fragile... I don't know how he can manage if he is body punched by Guillermo...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:38 pm 
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I feel there's a bit of semblance to their way of throwing uppercuts, hooks and the way they avoid power punches although Donaire is the busier fighter and usually comes forward. Rigondeaux has that penchant for waiting and only comes forward when he sees his opponent backing off.

I pick Donaire via UD.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:49 pm 
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cutefix wrote:
It boils down to money... there is more dough earned fighting popular contenders that have been in professional baking for some time and had racked up some good record like Nishioka, Arce etc....
But competitive wise... Rigondeaux is a force not to be ignored... this guy have more boxing experience than Donaire and had stellar record in his amateur... and he is a strong puncher with not much of a weak point in his fighting style....
Meanwhile Nonito is sometimes awkward... and look fragile... I don't know how he can manage if he is body punched by Guillermo...



Yeah...
The only thing that matters for this fight is Rigo's two Olympic Gold Medals...
No big dough yet for this fight so let Bob Arum cook it more...It means we have to wait for sometime or never at all if Nonito climbs up in weight and chase a better dream fight...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:06 pm 
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imakaiw wrote:
If I were Nonito, I will not fight Rigo because Pacland crabs will surely reincarnate their midget killer taunts :)



I am an objective boxing fan...
I am a fan of Nonito Donaire...

But I am more of a Pacfan and a Pactard sometimes...
I was suspended for more than 3 months for being a Pactard...

Being a Pactard, I responded to a Norcal bashing of Pacquiao and I was suspended for that very small offense using Pinoy language that is foul but funny...(baho puwet)

Defending an idol from malicious attacks is a crime here in Pacland...


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If they are indeed fighters, they should put the money issue aside.

This is the best way of cleaning up the division.

Proving who's the best should be the main focus.

Nowadays, money is just being used as an excuse not to fight a fighter that would pose a threat.

If opponent requests for a high pay, just give it then defeat him.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:04 pm 
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raymund wrote:
If they are indeed fighters, they should put the money issue aside.

This is the best way of cleaning up the division.

Proving who's the best should be the main focus.

Nowadays, money is just being used as an excuse not to fight a fighter that would pose a threat.

If opponent requests for a high pay, just give it then defeat him.



Easier said than done...Where to raise the money without losing the pocket is more important...It's a promoter's problem, not the boxer's...Boxers can choose whom to fight but they can't make a fight, it's a promoters job, that's the irony...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:56 am 
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I think Donaire can beat this "OLDER" Cuban. It maybe a difficult fight for Donaire but I believe that he will prevail against Rigondeaux. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:13 am 
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Nonito hands down.....If he fights Abner first then I don't really care.....Nonito will beat him too.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:17 am 
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Nonito. Proven chin with power, speed, skills. Don't know if Rigondeaux can take a punch.


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ND does not have the most stellar defense though it he looks very slick inside the ring with those fancy upper body movements and flashy footwork.



but ND is an elite, he has the edge in power department and can really do the sweet science if he wants to.
he's just very eager to get the knockout in every fight to please the crowd and that's why he tends to headhunt more than break his opponent
down first with body shots...
he has the tendency to abandon his jab and he gets tagged by his foes trying to land that one punch KO, foes who are usually back pedalling because they can't handle ND's speed and aggression...


rigon is the greatest amateur boxer of all time, he's slick and has descent power.
he's a boxer puncher i guess from what i have seen from some of his fights. he can mix it up if he wishes to but he leans more on a safety first style. he certainly ain't a volume puncher. I bet rigon would never come out blazing against a top p4p fighter like donaire. he is gonna pick his spots like he used to. and his penchant for defense first and inactivity will do him no good...

rigon's got legit boxing skills but he has never faced an elite puncher like DONAIRE.... with the right game plan,
the reach, tested granite chin, punching power and mobility of the flash will prevail...



donaire by UD.
no KD coz rigon's gonna do a narvaez
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:45 am 
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freewheeze wrote:
ND does not have the most stellar defense though it he looks very slick inside the ring with those fancy upper body movements and flashy footwork.



but ND is an elite, he has the edge in power department and can really do the sweet science if he wants to.
he's just very eager to get the knockout in every fight to please the crowd and that's why he tends to headhunt more than break his opponent
down first with body shots...
he has the tendency to abandon his jab and he gets tagged by his foes trying to land that one punch KO, foes who are usually back pedalling because they can't handle ND's speed and aggression...


rigon is the greatest amateur boxer of all time, he's slick and has descent power.
he's a boxer puncher i guess from what i have seen from some of his fights. he can mix it up if he wishes to but he leans more on a safety first style. he certainly ain't a volume puncher. I bet rigon would never come out blazing against a top p4p fighter like donaire. he is gonna pick his spots like he used to. and his penchant for defense first and inactivity will do him no good...

rigon's got legit boxing skills but he has never faced an elite puncher like DONAIRE.... with the right game plan,
the reach, tested granite chin, punching power and mobility of the flash will prevail...



donaire by UD.
no KD coz rigon's gonna do a narvaez
:D

Well said bro....if only Nonito will use more lateral movement and to get in more often with body shots instead for going for a KO....then he will pose more threat.

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