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Exactly..... there's lots of reasons why athletes choose to cheat using PEDs, to gain advantage, to secure that big contract, to get that important win. But at the root of it is GREED.

Angel Heredia has a proven history of doping and getting caught. Greed will make him take on more boxers as client after showing that he can put a top boxer into another level. Greed will make him careless trying to service multiple clients. All it takes is one of his boxers to be caught with tainted blood and all of his "cover" will be shattered. All it takes is one of his boxers to come forward with proof that he took supplements given by Heredia that is a known PED substance or masking agent. It doesnt matter if it happens this year or 5 years or 10 years from now. WHEN that happens, Marquez's win over Pacquiao will be revisited and looked at differently.

But until then, Marquez is innocent and clean, just as the official NSAC blood test has shown.

Exactly..... there's lots of reasons why athletes choose to cheat using PEDs, to gain advantage, to secure that big contract, to get that important win. But at the root of it is GREED.

Angel Heredia has5 a proven history of doping and getting caught. Greed will make him take on more boxers as client after showing that he can put a top boxer into another level. Greed will make him careless trying to service multiple clients. All it takes is one of his boxers to be caught with tainted blood and all of his "cover" will be shattered. All it takes is one of his boxers to come forward with proof that he took supplements given by Heredia that is a known PED substance or masking agent. It doesnt matter if it happens this year or 5 years or 10 years from now. WHEN that happens, Marquez's win over Pacquiao will be revisited and looked at differently.

But until then, Marquez is innocent and clean, just as the official NSAC blood test has shown.

Bakit kailangan pa ng 5 years or 10 years or may mag positive sa test? (eh nagawa niya na before? Ano pa pagkakaiba ng umamin na doper na before at yung mahuhuli pa ulit sa future?
The difference is evidence and concrete proof. Right now Heredia is hiding under the protection of "I did it before, but I'm not stupid to commit the same mistake twice, so I'm probably not cheating this time". Also, most of the athlete that he worked with before were in track & field & baseball. Think of it this way, just because you were caught by the cops with over speeding before, you don't want to be accused of over speeding everytime you drive right?
Kung me ma detect man na hawak ni Memo, wala din, non sense, dahil hindi naman yun ang nag patulog kay Pacquiao kundi si Marquez, which is nag negative sa illegal substance sa test ng NSAC.

Move on na lang.
I agree, me personally, I have moved on from the KO, because that KO is a legitimate KO. I knew that while watching the fight. I haven't watched any replay too besides the highlights from the news the next day. But here's how it works, any record or achievement or wins or championship attained by an athlete in a period that is now considered as tainted because he/she was doping, is automatically considered invalid. An asterisk will forever be associated with that record, in some cases, the award is pulled officially. The KO can never be taken back, but the opinion and perception of it, of Marquez and of Manny, of Beristain and Roach, will be changed.
With or without peds, marquez brutally knock pac out.

Masakit man isipin, ayuko na nga mapanood pa yung pac vs mar 4

Nung dec 9 lang tapos di ko na napanood pa ulit.

Antayin na lang natin next fight ni Pacman and sana makabawi.