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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:50 am 
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...accusations is that Manny got bigger gradually in a more natural way. Marquez did it in 3-4 months turned himself into the hulk.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:54 am 
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6hitcombo wrote:
...accusations is that Manny got bigger gradually in a more natural way. Marquez did it in 3-4 months turned himself into the hulk.


manny can take a punch from bigger power punchers, while marquez can knocked out a granite chin fighter...


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:37 pm 
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Marquez has been around 140 pounds for over three years now. I don't know what the H E L L you people are smoking, but it sure ain't good for your health. That much is for sure.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:57 pm 
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The pharmacy in Mexico is better than the pharmacy in the Philippines ... more fun in da pelepens ... only in the Philippines ... :shock: :peace: :hat:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:20 pm 
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marquez has ALWAYS been more than willing to go through OSDT as long as BOTH (he and pac) are tested in that way................ pac REFUSED............

pac has ALWAYS REFUSED OSDT to prove that he is free of peds............ mayweather has ALWAYS wanted this testing to make the fight with pacquiao.............. pac REFUSED...........


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:12 pm 
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against the grain wrote:
marquez has ALWAYS been more than willing to go through OSDT as long as BOTH (he and pac) are tested in that way................ pac REFUSED............

pac has ALWAYS REFUSED OSDT to prove that he is free of peds............ mayweather has ALWAYS wanted this testing to make the fight with pacquiao.............. pac REFUSED...........

Mayweather not on PED? Marquez did not refuse the test in this fight? In fact, pacquiao has disclosed all of his test results to the public. Bud, you are living under a rock. When finish hibernation ask Mayweather to disclose his test results.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:18 pm 
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railsback wrote:
Marquez has been around 140 pounds for over three years now. I don't know what the H E L L you people are smoking, but it sure ain't good for your health. That much is for sure.

Not smoking anything at all bro. And I'm not talking about gaining weight I'm talking about getting bigger. Marquez all of a sudden for this 4th fight gets obviously more muscular than hes ever been, and you cant deny that, in a matter of 3-4 months thats all im stating.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:23 pm 
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The difference is JMM has the 2nd most infamous steroid dealer working for him.

Ariza has not been accused of supplying roids to anyone afaik.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:54 pm 
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josecasta1 wrote:
against the grain wrote:
marquez has ALWAYS been more than willing to go through OSDT as long as BOTH (he and pac) are tested in that way................ pac REFUSED............

pac has ALWAYS REFUSED OSDT to prove that he is free of peds............ mayweather has ALWAYS wanted this testing to make the fight with pacquiao.............. pac REFUSED...........

Mayweather not on PED? Marquez did not refuse the test in this fight? In fact, pacquiao has disclosed all of his test results to the public. Bud, you are living under a rock. When finish hibernation ask Mayweather to disclose his test results.


what rock are YOU under?????????????????

YES, marquez was willing to take any form of testing that team pac would have wanted IF BOTH he and pacquiao would go through the testing........... team pac REFUSED..........

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/4/37 ... oxing-news

btw, drug testing is NOT accomplished by just disclosing it to the public............... where did you get that from??????????

drug testing methods has to be 'spelled' out in the fight contract and administered by the appropriate agency/lab..................

when you are finished hibernating.... do some research and realize that pacquiao REFUSED the drug testing when mayweather wanted OSDT............

btw, marquez and mayweather have PASSED ALL the tests that pac considers the LITMUS test for peds............ the NSAC ped tests........... if that is good enough for pac then ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ, MAYWEATHER and ANYONE else pac fights................


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:41 pm 
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the real difference?

well, pactards said Pacquiao is innocent until proven guilty, while Marquez is guilty beyond reasonable doubt without any proof.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:54 pm 
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against the grain wrote:
josecasta1 wrote:
against the grain wrote:
marquez has ALWAYS been more than willing to go through OSDT as long as BOTH (he and pac) are tested in that way................ pac REFUSED............

pac has ALWAYS REFUSED OSDT to prove that he is free of peds............ mayweather has ALWAYS wanted this testing to make the fight with pacquiao.............. pac REFUSED...........

Mayweather not on PED? Marquez did not refuse the test in this fight? In fact, pacquiao has disclosed all of his test results to the public. Bud, you are living under a rock. When finish hibernation ask Mayweather to disclose his test results.


what rock are YOU under?????????????????

YES, marquez was willing to take any form of testing that team pac would have wanted IF BOTH he and pacquiao would go through the testing........... team pac REFUSED..........

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/4/37 ... oxing-news

btw, drug testing is NOT accomplished by just disclosing it to the public............... where did you get that from??????????

drug testing methods has to be 'spelled' out in the fight contract and administered by the appropriate agency/lab..................

when you are finished hibernating.... do some research and realize that pacquiao REFUSED the drug testing when mayweather wanted OSDT............

btw, marquez and mayweather have PASSED ALL the tests that pac considers the LITMUS test for peds............ the NSAC ped tests........... if that is good enough for pac then ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MARQUEZ, MAYWEATHER and ANYONE else pac fights................


That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude. Roach's said Marquez refused. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/12475/2012-11-29/Roach-Marquez-Rejected-Testing-We%E2%80%99ll-Still-Kick-His-*** So, who are you going to believe now? These won't prove anything, only a naivety will fall for it.

Mayweather and GBP without any evidence accused Pacquiao of using PED. Then USDA/GBP and Mayweather demanded Pacquiao to take the test in thier own terms. So who will allow these people to be all of Pacquiao's accuser, judge and executioner. Maybe just you because of your naivety problem.

So after Pacquiao won the defamation lawsuit against GBP and Mayweather, they recanted their lies against Pacquiao. So, who is your source that Pacquiao is on PED? Having no source to a debate is a cause problem of naivety. That's yours and it's serious.

The "LITMUS TEST" that you were referring to has been blown into pieces by Grabiel Montoya and Thomas Hauser to be a BS litmus test. They reported PED test corruption against GBP/USDA relationship. They also reported that Mayweather failed three of his PED test. GBP/USDA and Mayweather could not responds to these reports. Excerpts of Hauser's article
"The PED Mess:"
http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2012-articles/november/did-floyd-mayweather-fail-multiple-drug-tests-and-other-riddles.html
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/15610-boxing-vs-peds
Are you that naive to want this people be the judge and executioner for Pacquiao? Oh yeah of course you are! That's what we are here for.
I'm really itching to see those PED test results from Mayweather. Why are they still hiding it? "LITMUS, oh LITMUS" such a big word for a naivety.

Just to add... Oh yeah Marquez's biggest fight of his life had to pick a reputable conditioning coach. Who are Heredia's clients? As a conditioning coach what was his reputation? Nothing. And to answer different means naivety. And bud, that is your trouble.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:43 am 
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That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude. Roach's said Marquez refused. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/12475/2012-11-29/Roach-Marquez-Rejected-Testing-We%E2%80%99ll-Still-Kick-His-*** So, who are you going to believe now? These won't prove anything, only a naivety will fall for it.

Mayweather and GBP without any evidence accused Pacquiao of using PED. Then USDA/GBP and Mayweather demanded Pacquiao to take the test in thier own terms. So who will allow these people to be all of Pacquiao's accuser, judge and executioner. Maybe just you because of your naivety problem.

So after Pacquiao won the defamation lawsuit against GBP and Mayweather, they recanted their lies against Pacquiao. So, who is your source that Pacquiao is on PED? Having no source to a debate is a cause problem of naivety. That's yours and it's serious.

The "LITMUS TEST" that you were referring to has been blown into pieces by Grabiel Montoya and Thomas Hauser to be a BS litmus test. They reported PED test corruption against GBP/USDA relationship. They also reported that Mayweather failed three of his PED test. GBP/USDA and Mayweather could not responds to these reports. Excerpts of Hauser's article
"The PED Mess:"
http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2012-articles/november/did-floyd-mayweather-fail-multiple-drug-tests-and-other-riddles.html
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/15610-boxing-vs-peds
Are you that naive to want this people be the judge and executioner for Pacquiao? Oh yeah of course you are! That's what we are here for.
I'm really itching to see those PED test results from Mayweather. Why are they still hiding it? "LITMUS, oh LITMUS" such a big word for a naivety.

Just to add... Oh yeah Marquez's biggest fight of his life had to pick a reputable conditioning coach. Who are Heredia's clients? As a conditioning coach what was his reputation? Nothing. And to answer different means naivety. And bud, that is your trouble.[/quote]


Marquez should also be treated like Pacquio. JMM accusers do not also have an evidence to prove their claim. and Marquez like Pacquiao never failed a drug test nor has the history of using it.

its just that pactards are not fair that make them the worst kind of fans. No doubt, almost every pactard are not real boxing fan. they are just pacquiao fan.

had pacquiao won and did not suffer a brutal and devastating KOd, nobody will be accusing him of PeDs. losers always do have alibis.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:43 am 
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That's the problem with you, you believe everything what other tells you. Naivety is a problem dude. Roach's said Marquez refused. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/12475/2012-11-29/Roach-Marquez-Rejected-Testing-We%E2%80%99ll-Still-Kick-His-*** So, who are you going to believe now? These won't prove anything, only a naivety will fall for it.

Mayweather and GBP without any evidence accused Pacquiao of using PED. Then USDA/GBP and Mayweather demanded Pacquiao to take the test in thier own terms. So who will allow these people to be all of Pacquiao's accuser, judge and executioner. Maybe just you because of your naivety problem.

So after Pacquiao won the defamation lawsuit against GBP and Mayweather, they recanted their lies against Pacquiao. So, who is your source that Pacquiao is on PED? Having no source to a debate is a cause problem of naivety. That's yours and it's serious.

The "LITMUS TEST" that you were referring to has been blown into pieces by Grabiel Montoya and Thomas Hauser to be a BS litmus test. They reported PED test corruption against GBP/USDA relationship. They also reported that Mayweather failed three of his PED test. GBP/USDA and Mayweather could not responds to these reports. Excerpts of Hauser's article
"The PED Mess:"
http://www.queensberry-rules.com/2012-articles/november/did-floyd-mayweather-fail-multiple-drug-tests-and-other-riddles.html
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/15610-boxing-vs-peds
Are you that naive to want this people be the judge and executioner for Pacquiao? Oh yeah of course you are! That's what we are here for.
I'm really itching to see those PED test results from Mayweather. Why are they still hiding it? "LITMUS, oh LITMUS" such a big word for a naivety.

Just to add... Oh yeah Marquez's biggest fight of his life had to pick a reputable conditioning coach. Who are Heredia's clients? As a conditioning coach what was his reputation? Nothing. And to answer different means naivety. And bud, that is your trouble.[/quote]


Marquez should also be treated like Pacquio. JMM accusers do not also have an evidence to prove their claim. and Marquez like Pacquiao never failed a drug test nor has the history of using it.

its just that pactards are not fair that make them the worst kind of fans. No doubt, almost every pactard are not real boxing fan. they are just pacquiao fan.

had pacquiao won and did not suffer a brutal and devastating KOd, nobody will be accusing him of PeDs. losers always do have alibis.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:28 am 
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mauragon wrote:
the real difference?

well, pactards said Pacquiao is innocent until proven guilty, while Marquez is guilty beyond reasonable doubt without any proof.

onli in d pilipins.lol



LOL!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:31 pm 
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mauragon wrote:

Marquez should also be treated like Pacquio. JMM accusers do not also have an evidence to prove their claim. and Marquez like Pacquiao never failed a drug test nor has the history of using it.

its just that pactards are not fair that make them the worst kind of fans. No doubt, almost every pactard are not real boxing fan. they are just pacquiao fan.

had pacquiao won and did not suffer a brutal and devastating KOd, nobody will be accusing him of PeDs. losers always do have alibis.


In this entire thread, I referred Maquez in this manner:

josecasta1 wrote:
Marquez did not refuse the test in this fight?
**AND**
Just to add... Oh yeah Marquez's biggest fight of his life had to pick a reputable conditioning coach. Who are Heredia's clients? As a conditioning coach what was his reputation? Nothing. And to answer different means naivety. And bud, that is your trouble.


In the entire conversation, when did I ever accused Marquez of using PED? How can you sleep at night being a troll? Get UNTROLLED. Not becoming a troll anymore will be a good New Years resolution for you. Happy new year.

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