jamsky wrote:
mauragon wrote:
pactards to the max.. Pacquiaos achievements is a product of great matchmaking and excellent promotions.
at 135 Diaz was the weakest champion and was considered a paper champion.. He moved instantly at 147 to face De la hoya, past his prime and dehydrated who cannot even KD the father fisted forbes. He should have face other legitimate champion instead.
at 140, he faced fatton whos also the weakest among 140 champions. A mayweather left over.
at 147, cotto was also not the top dog at that weight. He also forced cotto to fight under his comfortable weight and was not the same cotto prior to the brutal loss he suffered against margarito. Neither Mosley and clottey were also the top dog at welterweight and both came from defeat.
at 154, Margarito was not also the top dog at that weight and justa came from a suspension. And the fight was not even at 154. its at 150.
In fairness to pacquio, his achievements at 130 and below is legitimate and no one should question it. At 135, 140, 147 and 154 its matchmaking. Therefore, Pacquiao can only be considered as four division champion if the basis would be the kind of competition.
His the only 8 division champion because weight classifications has been changed then.
I kinda agree with you a little bit with this one.
But same thing with Floyd, the reason why he is still undefeated is because of a good match making.
That's boxing right there bro, unlike MMA that the best fights the best.
floyds greatness is also tainted by avoiding the best in his career.
Floyds achievements is not purely a product of matchmaking. Infact he could have defeated fighters whom he avoided if he took the risk. He could have defeated Pacquiao, He could have defeated Williams and Martinez, and He could have defeated Margarito, Mosley and Cotto on thier primes. Floyd never took risk. He only fights if there is no risk involved and hes 100 percent sure that hes going to win. Hes the boss and the one who decides who he is going to fight.
Floyd has a great skills, his skills are excellent, and second to none. Its his heart that that separates him as an all time great. he is not a real warrior.
Lastly, i do believe De la hoya defeated him on that very close fight.